Turbo 3.6 - $269k
01-29-2015, 09:04 PM
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Turbo 3.6 - $269k
Is it me or prices going crazy!! This dealership (topgear NJ) has some ridiculous cars with prices that sound out of this world - is this car worth that much?
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1994 turbo 3.6
25k miles
GR/cashmere sport seats
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1994 turbo 3.6
25k miles
GR/cashmere sport seats
01-29-2015, 09:05 PM
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01-30-2015, 11:58 AM
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Old Porsche's and I am talking 70's and 80's are bringing huge money. They are cool and drive OK but I really don't get it. A really nice '73 RS is over a million.
01-30-2015, 12:40 PM
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Burning Brakes
were new. They were highly enjoyable compared with any other cars of their era, with better handling, braking and steering. I loved driving them among the sloppy, bulky and far less maneuverable barges on the road with them.
But having driven several of these old Porsches more recently, it was amazed at how poor their handling, braking, steering and acceleration now feel compared with the huge strides that not only Porsche but virtually every other contemporary car has made in the intervening decades of improvements.
Very hard for me to reconcile the nostalgia of those now-ancient chariots with the
numbers that are being paid for them. I expect that bubble to burst and prices to plummet when bank interest rates rise to more reasonable levels and old cars
are revealed as a less than perfect repository of cash. That is exactly what happened to Ferrari prices when they soared after the death of the Company's founder in the mid 1980s. In fact the "worst" Porsche model today is far better
by any objective measure than the "best" Porsche model made 10 or more years
ago.
01-30-2015, 12:53 PM
#5
I don't get it either. I've driven or owned most 356 and 911 models since they
were new. They were highly enjoyable compared with any other cars of their era, with better handling, braking and steering. I loved driving them among the sloppy, bulky and far less maneuverable barges on the road with them.
But having driven several of these old Porsches more recently, it was amazed at how poor their handling, braking, steering and acceleration now feel compared with the huge strides that not only Porsche but virtually every other contemporary car has made in the intervening decades of improvements.
Very hard for me to reconcile the nostalgia of those now-ancient chariots with the
numbers that are being paid for them. I expect that bubble to burst and prices to plummet when bank interest rates rise to more reasonable levels and old cars
are revealed as a less than perfect repository of cash. That is exactly what happened to Ferrari prices when they soared after the death of the Company's founder in the mid 1980s. In fact the "worst" Porsche model today is far better
by any objective measure than the "best" Porsche model made 10 or more years
ago.
were new. They were highly enjoyable compared with any other cars of their era, with better handling, braking and steering. I loved driving them among the sloppy, bulky and far less maneuverable barges on the road with them.
But having driven several of these old Porsches more recently, it was amazed at how poor their handling, braking, steering and acceleration now feel compared with the huge strides that not only Porsche but virtually every other contemporary car has made in the intervening decades of improvements.
Very hard for me to reconcile the nostalgia of those now-ancient chariots with the
numbers that are being paid for them. I expect that bubble to burst and prices to plummet when bank interest rates rise to more reasonable levels and old cars
are revealed as a less than perfect repository of cash. That is exactly what happened to Ferrari prices when they soared after the death of the Company's founder in the mid 1980s. In fact the "worst" Porsche model today is far better
by any objective measure than the "best" Porsche model made 10 or more years
ago.
01-30-2015, 01:01 PM
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I had two 94 3.6 turbos, not at the same time. I guess I should have kept at least one of them. 
01-30-2015, 02:36 PM
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01-30-2015, 02:45 PM
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Burning Brakes
Old school cars are bringing great money. Look at the Ford GT's. I don't think a new Ford GT (when it comes out) will be worth more in market value than the 12 year old previous generation one. I think car enthusiasts all realize that all cars in the future will be hybrid this-and-that, electric steering blah blah blah, green this green that. I think in 20 years, an Enzo will be worth more than a La Ferrari. By then, a Prius will outperform a 918 in some performance categories. As soon as I cannot buy cars without electric propulsion, I will just be buying used cars as my sports cars.
01-30-2015, 03:04 PM
#9
Three Wheelin'
Same here, sold both of them a few years back when I was convinced it was top of market.....FAIL!!! I love these 964 turbos so I'll have to enjoy life with my look alike 3.3 liter now.
01-30-2015, 03:17 PM
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Burning Brakes
01-30-2015, 03:49 PM
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I convinced a friend of mine to pick one of these up eight years ago. We bought it and road tripped from Kentucky to California, hitting some of the great roads along the way. He's still got it... paid 54k if I'm not mistaken.
Objectively measure any older car it'll always come up short. Subjectively, on the other hand...
Objectively measure any older car it'll always come up short. Subjectively, on the other hand...
01-30-2015, 05:40 PM
#12
Three Wheelin'
Prices reflect several factors starting with nostalgia among the 50+ age group for their automotive youth. Second this demographic has income available for either investment or discretionary purchasing. Third dealer hubris has worked overtime to generate a buzz that you can have your cake and eat it too despite the obvious reality that these cars were worth only a fraction of the current asking prices five years ago. Only the dealers and a few private sellers will make out in this market.
01-30-2015, 05:42 PM
#13
Old school cars are bringing great money. Look at the Ford GT's. I don't think a new Ford GT (when it comes out) will be worth more in market value than the 12 year old previous generation one. I think car enthusiasts all realize that all cars in the future will be hybrid this-and-that, electric steering blah blah blah, green this green that. I think in 20 years, an Enzo will be worth more than a La Ferrari. By then, a Prius will outperform a 918 in some performance categories. As soon as I cannot buy cars without electric propulsion, I will just be buying used cars as my sports cars.
01-30-2015, 05:54 PM
#14
Every time I am tempted by nostalgia I go drive it and it goes away. 911's still look about the same as they always have. My GT3 would hide from any of them.
Enzo era Ferraris are the same they are cool to look at but drive like trucks.
Enzo era Ferraris are the same they are cool to look at but drive like trucks.
01-30-2015, 06:00 PM
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I don't get it either. I've driven or owned most 356 and 911 models since they
were new. They were highly enjoyable compared with any other cars of their era, with better handling, braking and steering. I loved driving them among the sloppy, bulky and far less maneuverable barges on the road with them.
But having driven several of these old Porsches more recently, it was amazed at how poor their handling, braking, steering and acceleration now feel compared with the huge strides that not only Porsche but virtually every other contemporary car has made in the intervening decades of improvements.
Very hard for me to reconcile the nostalgia of those now-ancient chariots with the
numbers that are being paid for them. I expect that bubble to burst and prices to plummet when bank interest rates rise to more reasonable levels and old cars
are revealed as a less than perfect repository of cash. That is exactly what happened to Ferrari prices when they soared after the death of the Company's founder in the mid 1980s. In fact the "worst" Porsche model today is far better
by any objective measure than the "best" Porsche model made 10 or more years
ago.
were new. They were highly enjoyable compared with any other cars of their era, with better handling, braking and steering. I loved driving them among the sloppy, bulky and far less maneuverable barges on the road with them.
But having driven several of these old Porsches more recently, it was amazed at how poor their handling, braking, steering and acceleration now feel compared with the huge strides that not only Porsche but virtually every other contemporary car has made in the intervening decades of improvements.
Very hard for me to reconcile the nostalgia of those now-ancient chariots with the
numbers that are being paid for them. I expect that bubble to burst and prices to plummet when bank interest rates rise to more reasonable levels and old cars
are revealed as a less than perfect repository of cash. That is exactly what happened to Ferrari prices when they soared after the death of the Company's founder in the mid 1980s. In fact the "worst" Porsche model today is far better
by any objective measure than the "best" Porsche model made 10 or more years
ago.
hey look, i agree with you 100% -- my Cayman grips and hugs the road like an overly attached girlfriend that wouldn't let go. my Cayman stops on the dime. my Cayman has bluetooth and XM and navigation and awesome exhaust note and it is such a fun daily driver...
but i gotta tell you -- i drove my 993 Turbo S yesterday and knowing that less then two hundred of these were made and seeing the car parked on the street brought me a different feeling of enjoyment... sure, it doesn't handle as good and doesn't stop as fast, but you have a different kind of connection to this world driving that car...