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Old 12-22-2014, 03:38 PM
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Laptimes on a track performed on the same day/time are much more informative when comparing different cars.

But why so much concern about laptimes?? I thought the "driving experience" is more important anyways......(sarcastic jab at all those who claimed the 991 GT3 was all about laptimes and not much else).

For those of us who have one, we all know the 991 GT3 is pretty much amazing in almost all aspects......a feast for the senses when driving, a fast car in a straight line and in the corners, resulting in very decent numbers too (acceleration times, lateral g's, braking distance, and laptimes).

If it wasn't so damn low, it could be a winter car too (with winter tires).
Old 12-22-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
1:27 is quick on this track for a street car. I'm sure the racers will jump in but willow probably doesn't make that much advantage of the gt3 setup as a more technical track might. it warrants horsepower, aero, *****, and good damping to soak up those bumps. put in perspective, full on race cars in the Dec POC red race qualifier had (the are classes HP/weight): gt1 1:18 gt3 1:24 gt4 1:26 The faster times in time attack were low 1:30. These are often street cars, sometimes stripped cars.
Agreed, this isn't really a technical track (drove it my self) an favors HP, aero, and a heavy set as you mentioned. Not much to differentiate 50th and GT3 toys, tiers, breaks and and and... on this track.
Old 12-22-2014, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
1:27 is quick on this track for a street car. I'm sure the racers will jump in but willow probably doesn't make that much advantage of the gt3 setup as a more technical track might. it warrants horsepower, aero, *****, and good damping to soak up those bumps.

put in perspective, full on race cars in the Dec POC red race qualifier had (the are classes HP/weight):
gt1 1:18
gt3 1:24
gt4 1:26

The faster times in time attack were low 1:30. These are often street cars, sometimes stripped cars.
Still, a few tenths of a second (taking out a second for R-comps) for 45 HP, lighter, and a track suspension.
Old 12-22-2014, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hfm
Carlos and Randy make Motor Trend a world leading auto magazine. They're right there with EVO when it comes to the best auto journalists. Great video.
I agree...used to be Motor Trend was at most a 5 minute read AKA the daily wipe.

Now it's one of the best of the USA magazines along w/Excellence.
Old 12-22-2014, 08:38 PM
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I like Carlos' take at the end about it being fleeting for him. I'm very grateful to be able to enjoy these cars.
Old 12-22-2014, 09:46 PM
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Just watched it, thought it was very well done. I guess it's tough to find a poor review done on one of the best sport cars ever built in history.
Old 12-22-2014, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The guy knows how to drive, but he lost credibility with me when he somewhat contradicted himself regarding the GT3 (I don't recall the specifics, would need to watch the videos again).
I recall Sutcliffe said the 991 GT3 was the best sports car he's ever driven.

A rare video in which the reviewers commented on how the 911's low front hood is confidence-inspiring -- an often overlooked attribute.

The yellow paint looks good in the video, unlike what you see in static images on Porsche's site and elsewhere. The four point driving lights are a nod to the 918 lamps -- quite attractive.
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great video
Old 12-22-2014, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Also, IIRC, rumors are that the RS will be about 7:20 at the 'ring, which translates to ~1 s faster than the GT3 at a 1:30 track.
thats it? 5 seconds faster?

who would bother.
Old 12-22-2014, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mainly
thats it? 5 seconds faster?

who would bother.
My gut tells me if there's rws, it will be more then 5 secs faster
Old 12-22-2014, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mainly
thats it? 5 seconds faster?

who would bother.
Obvious n00b here, but 5 seconds sounds like a lot to me.

I mean if you're going at any kind of significant speed (say anything more than 60 mph), you can cover lots of asphalt in those mere 5 seconds.

Not that I'm in line for an RS, or even interested in one if offered an allocation, but just thinking out loud.
Old 12-23-2014, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
I recall Sutcliffe said the 991 GT3 was the best sports car he's ever driven.
Yes he did, but then look at what he said in this review, especially post 23:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...ver-s-car.html
Old 12-23-2014, 12:51 AM
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Thanks for posting
Old 12-23-2014, 09:32 AM
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Sutcliffe is an attention *****
Jethro giggles way too much
Love Randy, MT should use him more often
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I am truly fortunate to own a GT3, she's a gamechanger!


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