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12-05-2014, 09:26 AM
#76
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Moe,
What's the tarp for under the car when washing it? Looks like it catching runoff or something? Interesting.
I was surprised to see the car washed outside. I'm sure your shop was full with other cars getting work done!
What's the tarp for under the car when washing it? Looks like it catching runoff or something? Interesting.
I was surprised to see the car washed outside. I'm sure your shop was full with other cars getting work done!
12-05-2014, 09:46 AM
#77
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I couldn't have said it better!
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12-05-2014, 09:51 AM
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Correct on the blue mat. Our studio is actually pretty small...1200 sq/ft. We wash all the cars outside and the mat traps the dirty water and keeps it out of storm drain that would run off into the ocean. We try to only do 2-3 projects at a time in the studio. Sometimes we take in more patients, but we manage to still work without too much trouble.
12-05-2014, 11:30 AM
#79
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Any of you guys lucky enough to be within a reasonable driving distance of Moe, consider yourselves lucky.
The kind of PPF work he's doing is something you don't find in most parts of the country. I'd say he's a true one per center in the PPF business!
The kind of PPF work he's doing is something you don't find in most parts of the country. I'd say he's a true one per center in the PPF business!
12-05-2014, 11:44 AM
#80
Correct on the blue mat. Our studio is actually pretty small...1200 sq/ft. We wash all the cars outside and the mat traps the dirty water and keeps it out of storm drain that would run off into the ocean. We try to only do 2-3 projects at a time in the studio. Sometimes we take in more patients, but we manage to still work without too much trouble.
12-05-2014, 11:45 PM
#81
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All of you guys who are within reasonable distance or in the same city as Moe consider yourselves lucky. Worrying about a few dollars is nonsense. NOBODY is doing this quality of work in the USA. I wish I didn't live half way across the country and wish it wouldn't take 2K to have my car shipped that far or else I'd be there.
Maybe a group shipment of cars from the Midwest to Moe for a transport discount during the down winter months???
Maybe a group shipment of cars from the Midwest to Moe for a transport discount during the down winter months???
12-06-2014, 12:55 AM
#82
If Xpel Ultimate has a self-healing urethane layer, what happens if there is a scratch with dirt involved?
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
12-06-2014, 12:03 PM
#83
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Part of the issue probably is that you didn't know you had the film, or the previous owner didn't take care of it (not sure how long you have had the car). The film needs to be cared for and will dull if not taken car of. Mine after three years is fine. There are some "chips" and scratches from road debris but it is still glossy.
And those chips and scratches are not in the paint😄
And those chips and scratches are not in the paint😄
12-06-2014, 04:35 PM
#84
If Xpel Ultimate has a self-healing urethane layer, what happens if there is a scratch with dirt involved?
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
12-06-2014, 05:33 PM
#85
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Update
I'm at GP as I write this and there is another GT3 here that unfortunately already has a rock chip on his right headlight. I talked with Moe about this and we're going to wrap my headlights as I know the same thing will happen to mine.
When time comes to replace, the factory film will be pulled and the headlight sanded and polished and re-wrapped with UV wrap and CQuartz. In short, I'm going to wrap my headlights.
And, I'm going with advanced full wrap.
Thanks Moe!
When time comes to replace, the factory film will be pulled and the headlight sanded and polished and re-wrapped with UV wrap and CQuartz. In short, I'm going to wrap my headlights.
And, I'm going with advanced full wrap.
Thanks Moe!
Last edited by hfm; 12-07-2014 at 02:07 PM.
12-06-2014, 05:49 PM
#86
Race Director
I at GP as I write this and there is another GT3 here that unfortunately already has a rock chip on his right headlight. I talked with Moe about this and we're going to wrap my headlights as I know the same thing will happen to mine. When time comes to replace, the factory film will be pulled and the headlight sanded and polished and re-wrapped with UV wrap and CQuartz. In short, I'm going to wrap my headlights. And, I'm going with advanced full wrap. Thanks Moe!
The current UV clear coat on the is very hard almost ceramic like. Sanding it off on plastic takes hours and then it has to be clear coated again. It cannot just be polished.
If you want more details I'd be happy to share.
12-06-2014, 05:55 PM
#87
Race Director
Not saying don't do it, but it's a risk either way which sucks. I've seen the delam, and it's not pretty. Trust me.
No film, risk of chips!
Get film and maybe issues if removing it!
No film, risk of chips!
Get film and maybe issues if removing it!
12-06-2014, 07:33 PM
#88
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
I post a few links regarding additional work being done for reference including installation of radar detector, mount and dash cam.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...n-991-gt3.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...l#post11749799
Dan (thanks Moe for transport that saved him a $130 Uber ride - Glistening is a pro shop)
12-07-2014, 11:10 AM
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If Xpel Ultimate has a self-healing urethane layer, what happens if there is a scratch with dirt involved?
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
Not all scratches to your car are done with a piece of steel wool or a sharp clean knife on a clean car, right?
So if my car has a layer of dust/dirt on it, and someone rubs against the car and drags said dust/dirt across the film so as to scratch it, would the dirt be 'healed' into the film?
Reason I ask is I found out my current car actually has Xpel, and after 3 years, it's looking really dull. The same uncovered areas of the car with the same treatment over the past 3 years looks much better.
Part of the issue probably is that you didn't know you had the film, or the previous owner didn't take care of it (not sure how long you have had the car). The film needs to be cared for and will dull if not taken car of. Mine after three years is fine. There are some "chips" and scratches from road debris but it is still glossy.
And those chips and scratches are not in the paint😄
And those chips and scratches are not in the paint😄
I've seen the delamination issue personally. If you get it when removing film, it's a very very long and exhausting process to refinish a headlight.
The current UV clear coat on the is very hard almost ceramic like. Sanding it off on plastic takes hours and then it has to be clear coated again. It cannot just be polished.
If you want more details I'd be happy to share.
The current UV clear coat on the is very hard almost ceramic like. Sanding it off on plastic takes hours and then it has to be clear coated again. It cannot just be polished.
If you want more details I'd be happy to share.
This is case-by-case and we'll see what happens in the long run. As you mentioned, there's really no right or wrong thing to do in this circumstance as both option are basically choosing from the lesser of two evils.