If You Have Full Leather Option ....
#46
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In dead weight, you're looking about about one or two gallons of fuel, give or take, to put some lippy on a USD$150K car with all plastic dash up to halfway decent appearance. It's not an Aston or Pagani, but you take it up from New York Taxi to at least the car that shows up when you click on the Uber app. : )
I also put the steering column leather on -- not a bargain, but it's right there in your line of sight and it's cheaper than getting aftermarket (which will never match) and the delta is maybe one visit to the gas station.
My real dislike for the cabin begins and ends with the steering wheel. The painted plastic chrome shiny stuff would be embarrassing on an 80's Honda. That really needs something. Anything.
One thing I'd do differently is the bizarre plain matte aluminum finish on the dash trim (the wide strip that covers the cup holders and goes around the doors.) On the 991 S, it's quite unremarkable. On the 997 RS, it's that slightly tacky faux carbon fibre trim stuff (still a plastic piece, just with the cosmetic layer of weave in resin.) I'd consider the dollars for going with either factory of aftermarket trim to tone down the cabin in those areas. After a few weeks, it just doesn't enter my mind.
Thinking about appearance versus "image" and functionality of the car, my other dislike is the rear wing. Non functional, dangerous, and far too "look at me!" for my taste. I pulled it off the other day. Much nicer without it.
I also put the steering column leather on -- not a bargain, but it's right there in your line of sight and it's cheaper than getting aftermarket (which will never match) and the delta is maybe one visit to the gas station.
My real dislike for the cabin begins and ends with the steering wheel. The painted plastic chrome shiny stuff would be embarrassing on an 80's Honda. That really needs something. Anything.
One thing I'd do differently is the bizarre plain matte aluminum finish on the dash trim (the wide strip that covers the cup holders and goes around the doors.) On the 991 S, it's quite unremarkable. On the 997 RS, it's that slightly tacky faux carbon fibre trim stuff (still a plastic piece, just with the cosmetic layer of weave in resin.) I'd consider the dollars for going with either factory of aftermarket trim to tone down the cabin in those areas. After a few weeks, it just doesn't enter my mind.
Thinking about appearance versus "image" and functionality of the car, my other dislike is the rear wing. Non functional, dangerous, and far too "look at me!" for my taste. I pulled it off the other day. Much nicer without it.
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The full leather with red stitching is gorgeous. I also got the full carbon, and I wouldn't change a thing! In the bright sunlight, the red stitching really pops!
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Sort of depends what you mean by "completely stripped"...
Honestly it is my one observation about the buying crowd of this 991 gt3 vs. previous gt3s. I perceive a lot more spec'ing with leather, stitching, other items that make the car more GT/turbo like. Not a bad thing, just different. And I am not the track tough guy here, I definitely am not. But this isn't a daily driver and to me, the GT3 is supposed to be a weekend hot rod. The fact that some would spend their carbon ceramic brake money, or bucket seat money, on wall to wall leather inside, is something that is hard for me to understand. To me. Please don't flame me for saying this. Definitely different strokes for different folks. But to say that the car is "completely stripped" inside without full leather is a bit of an exaggeration. Sort of like me saying - "its a GT3 and you are going to order the same brakes that come on a base Carrera?"
Honestly it is my one observation about the buying crowd of this 991 gt3 vs. previous gt3s. I perceive a lot more spec'ing with leather, stitching, other items that make the car more GT/turbo like. Not a bad thing, just different. And I am not the track tough guy here, I definitely am not. But this isn't a daily driver and to me, the GT3 is supposed to be a weekend hot rod. The fact that some would spend their carbon ceramic brake money, or bucket seat money, on wall to wall leather inside, is something that is hard for me to understand. To me. Please don't flame me for saying this. Definitely different strokes for different folks. But to say that the car is "completely stripped" inside without full leather is a bit of an exaggeration. Sort of like me saying - "its a GT3 and you are going to order the same brakes that come on a base Carrera?"
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When I first read Dntlvet's comment, my reaction was similar to 911dev's. It's not possible to order a 991 GT3 w/o any leather, because each of the seat options has some leather. That said, I do realize that Dntlvet probably wasn't saying that his GT3 has no leather at all (unless he replaces the seats with aftermarket).
As for me, I'm not a fan of plastic leather-look dash and door trim.
I'm okay with Alcantara, but it bugs me when people refer to it as "suede". No, it's synthetic suede.
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#52
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But I would think on the track it has its benefits. I'm certainly not saying I'm the best one to answer that, but having driven it a couple of times on the track, I sure didn't mind it was there! It certainly didn't make the car more dangerous, IMHO.
Certainly with the 4.0 and cup cars, where it is mounted higher, it probably functions more aggressively.
Having said that, I am curious to see how it looks if you have pics. That's why I like RL, everyone has a different spin on things. Many opinions, many different cars, mucho fun!
I never thought I could get into Mexico Blue, but thanks to Eduardo and his wonderful posts, I'm a believer now! I'm still warming up to 'Der Grüner' tho.
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Sort of depends what you mean by "completely stripped"...
Honestly it is my one observation about the buying crowd of this 991 gt3 vs. previous gt3s. I perceive a lot more spec'ing with leather, stitching, other items that make the car more GT/turbo like. Not a bad thing, just different. And I am not the track tough guy here, I definitely am not. But this isn't a daily driver and to me, the GT3 is supposed to be a weekend hot rod. The fact that some would spend their carbon ceramic brake money, or bucket seat money, on wall to wall leather inside, is something that is hard for me to understand. To me. Please don't flame me for saying this. Definitely different strokes for different folks. But to say that the car is "completely stripped" inside without full leather is a bit of an exaggeration. Sort of like me saying - "its a GT3 and you are going to order the same brakes that come on a base Carrera?"
Honestly it is my one observation about the buying crowd of this 991 gt3 vs. previous gt3s. I perceive a lot more spec'ing with leather, stitching, other items that make the car more GT/turbo like. Not a bad thing, just different. And I am not the track tough guy here, I definitely am not. But this isn't a daily driver and to me, the GT3 is supposed to be a weekend hot rod. The fact that some would spend their carbon ceramic brake money, or bucket seat money, on wall to wall leather inside, is something that is hard for me to understand. To me. Please don't flame me for saying this. Definitely different strokes for different folks. But to say that the car is "completely stripped" inside without full leather is a bit of an exaggeration. Sort of like me saying - "its a GT3 and you are going to order the same brakes that come on a base Carrera?"
i hope the below explains what i meant:
my point being if one states they don't want a particular option, because it's a gt3, then said assertion would dictate that someone does not opt for any options because it is a gt3.
if not getting leather because it's a gt3, then i assume that person wouldn't take free Nav, or anything else for that matter, because it is a gt3.
i don't subscribe to this because i don't believe options or the lack thereof makes a gt3 anything less than a gt3.
i.e. I would not reply to someone else's post about getting Nav by stating I didn't get Nav, because it's a gt3; that would be nonsense.
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Dntlvet wrote "No leather for me, its a GT3". 911dev replied "yours is completely stripped except for buckets then???"
When I first read Dntlvet's comment, my reaction was similar to 911dev's. It's not possible to order a 991 GT3 w/o any leather, because each of the seat options has some leather. That said, I do realize that Dntlvet probably wasn't saying that his GT3 has no leather at all (unless he replaces the seats with aftermarket).
As for me, I'm not a fan of plastic leather-look dash and door trim.
I'm okay with Alcantara, but it bugs me when people refer to it as "suede". No, it's synthetic suede.
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When I first read Dntlvet's comment, my reaction was similar to 911dev's. It's not possible to order a 991 GT3 w/o any leather, because each of the seat options has some leather. That said, I do realize that Dntlvet probably wasn't saying that his GT3 has no leather at all (unless he replaces the seats with aftermarket).
As for me, I'm not a fan of plastic leather-look dash and door trim.
I'm okay with Alcantara, but it bugs me when people refer to it as "suede". No, it's synthetic suede.
.
#55
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i didn't state nor mean it was stripped by the lack of full leather.
i hope the below explains what i meant:
my point being if one states they don't want a particular option, because it's a gt3, then said assertion would dictate that someone does not opt for any options because it is a gt3.
if not getting leather because it's a gt3, then i assume that person wouldn't take free Nav, or anything else for that matter, because it is a gt3.
i don't subscribe to this because i don't believe options or the lack thereof makes a gt3 anything less than a gt3.
i.e. I would not reply to someone else's post about getting Nav by stating I didn't get Nav, because it's a gt3; that would be nonsense.
i hope the below explains what i meant:
my point being if one states they don't want a particular option, because it's a gt3, then said assertion would dictate that someone does not opt for any options because it is a gt3.
if not getting leather because it's a gt3, then i assume that person wouldn't take free Nav, or anything else for that matter, because it is a gt3.
i don't subscribe to this because i don't believe options or the lack thereof makes a gt3 anything less than a gt3.
i.e. I would not reply to someone else's post about getting Nav by stating I didn't get Nav, because it's a gt3; that would be nonsense.
#56
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I think you have to understand some folks only track this car and the less spent on extras the better. Keeping cost down makes more sense. For me its a weekend car and as a result I'm going to order whatever looks good for me. I don't think it has anything to do with saving weight as it does with how the car is used. Since I will mostly have it for weekend use I like the full leather option. If I was strictly using it for track I think I would keep cost down and opt out of ordering full leather.
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Ok, 2 more practical questions on the leather, for those with leather on this or other Porsches:
1) Is it much harder to maintain than the non-leather? and
2) Does the stitching tend to look dirty after a while?
1) Is it much harder to maintain than the non-leather? and
2) Does the stitching tend to look dirty after a while?
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I think you have to understand some folks only track this car and the less spent on extras the better. Keeping cost down makes more sense. For me its a weekend car and as a result I'm going to order whatever looks good for me. I don't think it has anything to do with saving weight as it does with how the car is used. Since I will mostly have it for weekend use I like the full leather option. If I was strictly using it for track I think I would keep cost down and opt out of ordering full leather.
again, making or breaking options makes the car anything less than what it is.
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I think you have to understand some folks only track this car and the less spent on extras the better. Keeping cost down makes more sense. For me its a weekend car and as a result I'm going to order whatever looks good for me. I don't think it has anything to do with saving weight as it does with how the car is used. Since I will mostly have it for weekend use I like the full leather option. If I was strictly using it for track I think I would keep cost down and opt out of ordering full leather.