Macca

true true. If only we were that sophisticated! Woodstock & Cola is still considered quite an upmarket drink!

I agree there is a big difference in those rear seats and I agree with your points for an adult seated back there. I think these GT3 owners are just putting young kids back there. I honestly wouldn't want to be back there either way in an accident in a 911!

Larry Cable

I'm surprised that Porsche did not follow the lead of BMW here and introduce the GT3 as the GT4 as it is the coupe version, then they could make the GT3 a four door saloon... that way we could have had a CF roof panel too!

and ...

while "we" are at it, why not add an "-R" as well to expand the appeal of the new car to owners of some other marques also?

TRAKCAR

I have a deposit for RS, but I'm more leaning to TT if there's no manual in the RS.

The TT has rear seats, AWD, more alphabet soup go fasterder stuff and more powah for less money than the RS.

Its like getting a faster track worthy SUV that can beat up on GTR's.

Macca

The TT will be no match for the GT3/RS on the track. Its PDK only like the GT3/RS too. And heavy.

Why would you get rid of the best production 911 Porsche has ever made to date (IMO) 4.0RS for anything less than another RS?

chuckbdc

Maybe a shooting brake version. How bad could it be? Oh wait, Ferrari has answered that =FF.

ShakeNBake

Perfect car for my life would be a gt3 with a rear seat (and a better sound option). But I'll probably end up with a cayenne and cup car like everyone else who moved on from an rs.

Macca

There is a whole thread on retro fitting rear seats to US GT3 somewhere on the 997 GT3 board. Its been done and didnt sound too expensive. I already know one person planning to have this done on the new 991 gt3 although its still unknown if it will work...

TRAKCAR

back seats overrated

tcsracing1

i could use awd for rallying....

TRAKCAR

To answer using your words..
It just went up too much to risk balling it up.

Macca

Pete. Love your timing here! Understand completely, been through similar in the past. I went through the same with the 993RS years ago as it started to appreciate madly. You then treat it differently. Ive always been envious of the first owners of cars like the 964RS, 993RS 996.1 GT3 etc which I have owned (usually 5-6 years down stream as 3rd owner etc). They got the benefit of these wonderful machines as new and used them often as DD and for everything then moved on to the next wonderful thing. Of course they had more money than me. At the very least Im expecting my first (and possibly only) new Porsche ownership experience with a 991 GT3 will provide a similar bucket list experience. Like your 4.0RS its better to have owned and enjoyed then moved on then never at all I guess....

I still maintain the RS version will be better suited to your needs however due to the amount of track work you do. A couple of shrewd GT3 buyers ove here I know always land the first GT3 of any generation then flip it just as the last cars are being imported maybe 20-24 months later sit it out for a few months before their GTSRS version arrives and repeat again with a longer gap between RS and GT3 next gen cycle. Talking with them they reckon doing it this way their annual depreciation is well under 10% pa perpetually and as far as they are concerned thats a cheap annual "lease" on one of teh worlds greatest cars, plus they are always driving the lastest one...

TRAKCAR

Yes, the 4.0 went for a lot more than I thought would happen.
It was hard, I'm traveling, show up in the office with the paperwork filled in ready to sign.

Went to the dealer car was gone.....

The 991RS will be one hell of an expensive Euro delivery vacation ;-)
Still first in line.

STUARTQ

I'm not a GT3 owner unfortunately, but that might change in the next year or so, but I do understand the need for some owners to have a rear seat option.

My company in the UK have carried out a number of conversions to the 964 RUF, RS, 996 and 997 GT3's for rear seat belts and rear seats.

The 1st picture posted shows an after market seat and the 2nd the OE seat. the safest option would be the OE as it is higher and gives better support.
Earlier 911's such as the 964 have a higher back panel so a retro solution is easier and can be fitted and removed in a few seconds.
996, 997 cars can also have a retro solution, but because the back panel is so much lower, the back rest will need to be secured in a similar way to the OE.
This can be done to match the OE trim and at more economical cost that using OE parts.
My company has more than 50 years experience in the fitting of seat belts and child friendly options for car owners.

If there is any interest, please PM me and I can discuss the options.

Mike in CA

+1 I've removed 'em from every 911 I've had.....

Macca

Great to hear from you. I may be interested. Will you have a solution for the 991 GT3 do you think?