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My view on track and street it was just more raw with clanking noises, and moved around more. Just a little more wicked, lap time .2 was faster but .1 was more fun to drive. ‘Also the UV did it for me.
It depends upon how you'll use it. The more you ask of it, use it for driver development, etc. the more you'll appreciate it for the long-term. And the more you ask of it, the more you'll come to understand it's darn hard to replace.
Don't have any ideas whatsoever on how I'd replace my .2 manual winged. Possibly with a .2 Touring, but I get some use out of the wing, so probably not.
I would have the greatest angst getting rid of it. More than any other car I've owned. E39 M5 comes close, I can still see it driving away like 15 yrs later... but I'd be sleepless on the GT3.
When the pandemic first hit and it wasn't clear which way this whole thing was going, I looked into selling my 993. I still remember the dealer circling around the car checking the car. Felt like a violation and I killed the deal. Couldn't do it. That's when I knew.
The only car that could tempt me to move the GT3T would be the 911R and possibly the ST, both of which are over double in price and not on my radar and, frankly, at that price I'd be looking hard at a 296GTB.
In its lane, I don't think there is anything that really touches the GT3/T.
My view on track and street it was just more raw with clanking noises, and moved around more. Just a little more wicked, lap time .2 was faster but .1 was more fun to drive. ‘Also the UV did it for me.
I actually second that! I have often thought about buying another .1 RS in UV. That was a very special car, the color, the way it felt, sounded and drove was spot on. I miss that car and will probably acquire another UV RS in the future. It’s actually between reacquiring the UV or adding a 964 turbo to go with my 993 tt.
Didn't end my chase but I've had my .1 GT3 for 7 years during which time I've had multiple AMG's, M cars and Ferraris, but the GT3 has always stayed which should tell you something. Oftentimes I look for GT3-like attributes in other cars I buy but it's almost impossible to find a similar package anywhere else.
If I was forced to keep 1 car the GT3 would stay and everything else would go - I have that much of an attachment to it.
for those of you who switch cars a lot, did the GT3 end the chase for you?
good question, in short yes.
I switch cars a lot, it’s pretty dumb actually, but I’ve owned or driven lots of sports cars as a result. Many are nice to have, but only the GT3 is a must have. I bought a manual buckets 991.2 and can’t recommend it highly enough. A manual buckets 992.1 would be great as well. The GT3 checks every box I want in a car, and has a USP all it’s own. I’ve tried “better” (ie more expensive) stuff and was left wanting, there is no next level past GT cars if you’re a real driver. If you’re a flexatarian or have other desires besides pure driving pleasure look elsewhere.
Yes, it has ended my chase. The GT3 Touring still excites me after 5 years and 36,000 later. I own an exotic car repair shop so I get to drive almost every car out there. There is none I would trade for including 992GT3. The ST is the only one I might consider.
I actually prefer the original front suspension. The car feel more like a 911 to me. The double wishbone make the handling more precise and better on paper but somehow it is less fun IMO.
I prefer the looks of the 991 over 992 and also the interior.
No other car has made me think about selling my GT3. Love the 458 and 296 but not enough to sell.
My 991.2 GT3 Touring is more car than I will ever need. Like the women I date, it keeps me on my toes, it talks back to me sometimes and there is never a dull moment. Unlike the women I date, it never gets old.
I don't escalate cars, I just accumulate them. The 991.2 GT3T suits me just fine for a modern, high performance car and I have no yearning for anything in that category that escalates it further (eg GT3RS, anything McLaren, modern Ferrari/Lambo, etc..) but there are always at least 1/2 dozen other cars in my mind I'd be interested in adding to the garage.
Fortunately/unfortunately I've usually been garage constrained to how many I can have at any point and since I never sell cars, it naturally capped my buying... and then I bought a 9 acre property with a huge bar that I can convert into a car barn. I will have room for 15 cars before building anything (which I am basically unlimited on) so this could get out of control....
Now economics will be the limitation. I can buy 10 new (to me) cars, but I can't buy 10 new $200k+ cars... but that's fine, there are a lot of cheaper cars I've always liked but not enough to buy instead of a more expensive car (eg a GT3). Now I can buy all the old BMWs, Porsche 944 Turbo, Ferrari 328 and other cars like that I might want....
The only car that could tempt me to move the GT3T would be the 911R and possibly the ST, both of which are over double in price and not on my radar and, frankly, at that price I'd be looking hard at a 296GTB.
Exactly. Value of 991.2 make them even more irreplaceable. You're talking largely lateral moves (on an experiential level) for more than 2x price. In the 50k mile 991.2 Harris review, he expresses strong preference for the 4.0 in the 991.2T vs. 911R.
Lucky enough to have spent days driving 991.2's and 296. That one tops my list for what I'd add to the garage, but there is no substitute for the GT3 experience.
I switch cars a lot, it’s pretty dumb actually, but I’ve owned or driven lots of sports cars as a result. Many are nice to have, but only the GT3 is a must have. I bought a manual buckets 991.2 and can’t recommend it highly enough. A manual buckets 992.1 would be great as well. The GT3 checks every box I want in a car, and has a USP all it’s own. I’ve tried “better” (ie more expensive) stuff and was left wanting, there is no next level past GT cars if you’re a real driver. If you’re a flexatarian or have other desires besides pure driving pleasure look elsewhere.
your reply really struck a chord with me as for me it really is all about pure driving pleasure
the 458 has always been the car that I thought was the pinnacle for me in driving pleasure
last year I met my hero and paid to drive one for 30 min, and while I enjoyed it very much when I got back into my lowly cayman gts 4.0 manual, I actually preferred it
it felt slow compared to the 458, and didn't sound as good, but it still had that distinct porsche howl, the amazing manual and an integration in the driving experience
since then the 991.2 GT3T has been that pinnacle car in my head
You're talking largely lateral moves (on an experiential level) for more than 2x price. In the 50k mile 991.2 Harris review, he expresses strong preference for the 4.0 in the 991.2T vs. 911R.
Well said, and even if the R was affordable would you want a 991.1 motor with the inherent issues that entails? I personally wouldn’t, love my 4.0.
Originally Posted by baege
your reply really struck a chord with me as for me it really is all about pure driving pleasure
the 458 has always been the car that I thought was the pinnacle for me in driving pleasure
last year I met my hero and paid to drive one for 30 min, and while I enjoyed it very much when I got back into my lowly cayman gts 4.0 manual, I actually preferred it
it felt slow compared to the 458, and didn't sound as good, but it still had that distinct porsche howl, the amazing manual and an integration in the driving experience
since then the 991.2 GT3T has been that pinnacle car in my head
I know how you feel, the only hero I met that didn’t disappoint was the GT3. It lives up to all the hype. And anyway, re:458 I don’t think any automatic can engage like a proper manual. For street driving a manual is a must imo.
991.2 Touring would be awesome, go for it. My only suggestion would be buckets, sofas insulate from the experience too much.
I don't escalate cars, I just accumulate them. The 991.2 GT3T suits me just fine for a modern, high performance car and I have no yearning for anything in that category that escalates it further (eg GT3RS, anything McLaren, modern Ferrari/Lambo, etc..) but there are always at least 1/2 dozen other cars in my mind I'd be interested in adding to the garage.
Fortunately/unfortunately I've usually been garage constrained to how many I can have at any point and since I never sell cars, it naturally capped my buying... and then I bought a 9 acre property with a huge bar that I can convert into a car barn. I will have room for 15 cars before building anything (which I am basically unlimited on) so this could get out of control....
Now economics will be the limitation. I can buy 10 new (to me) cars, but I can't buy 10 new $200k+ cars... but that's fine, there are a lot of cheaper cars I've always liked but not enough to buy instead of a more expensive car (eg a GT3). Now I can buy all the old BMWs, Porsche 944 Turbo, Ferrari 328 and other cars like that I might want....
you are a lucky guy!, this I think would be the real solution for me, having multiple pleasure cars, but not in the cards for me, unless I win the lottery
if I did win, my garage would resemble yours with a 991.2 GT3T, a 458, an E86 Mcoupe, a 2012 Vantage V12 manual and a Gallardo manual.
I think I can comfortably say the GT family of cars has ended my chase… they are all special in their own way and I’d have a black collection since the white collection sold. I’d be happy with any car built under AP.
I don’t like Ferrari games, love the look and performance of McLarens but they aren’t reliable for a track rat, Lambos have never done it for me.
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