Help with purchasing 991.1 GT3 - one with replaced engine
#16
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G6 question no doubt. 14k miles is nothing. All 991.1 GT3 owners are either already driving a G6... Or driving their cars hoping the motor blows. Just get the one with the G6 so you have peace of mind.
#17
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Was the ‘15 motor replaced at 2k miles? I’m questioning whether that was the most recent variant of G motor. The date of install will tell you.
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#18
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If you plan on keeping the car, the replacement motor appears to be a smart move. Frankly, not sure why anyone would buy a GT3 version Porsche if they’re not tracking it? Seems like a waste of money to me. It doesn’t ride well, rear visibility sucks, can’t go fast enough to avoid traffic frustration. Can’t park it anywhere. Can’t take long trips since there is no spare. Basically, it becomes a museum piece. Just my 2 cents after owning one for 3 years. My daily is a 718. 1/3rd the value, 2/3rd the use. My track car is the GT3. 100% use once a month. The rest of the time it sits on tire savers in the garage as my “king of the world” ego boost when suckling the **** of commerce gets me down.
I'd love to track it, however the closest is 4+ hours away. I'm sure I would get up the odd time to push it, but just wouldn't be a regular occurrence.
To me... if I am going to have another P car as an occasional driver, I want to know the ridiculous power is there, even if I can't use it to its full potential. That and the aesthetics of it.. the bumpers, the wing, the center exhaust, the OE wheels, everything about these cars is sexy. Nothing about a sports car is entirely practical and I am definitely not showing my wife your comment
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Thank you for all the replies so far. Very helpful
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#20
That is correct. It is likely a 2016 motor. It is better, but the G00 on my 2016 car blew at 17k miles in 2020.
#21
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This is from my Independent Porsche mechanic who was the head of a Porsche maintenance facility. The real issue was an oiling problem not a metallurgy defect. If it was a problem with the metal, just replace all the parts with good metal and problem solved. That didn’t work. They kept redesigning the top end an effort to get the moving parts oiled properly so they wouldn’t have premature wear on the cam lobes, finger followers. It took a number of attempts but they seemed to finally have fixed the problem. It was a design flaw they didn’t want to admit to. I know nothing about the specifics, but this theory makes more sense to me.
#22
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The 2015 still has the motor warranty for 10 years regardless of which replacement motor it got. I suppose one could argue that a 2014 with the original motor might have better odds of getting a G6 in the next 2 years as opposed to a 2015 with a G0 with 3 years warranty remaining. In a perfect world you want to end up with a G6 but there are plenty of cars out there that will live a long life with the original motor and the odds of that happening are much better with a G motor.
#23
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I'm pretty sure it was both. Porsche upgraded the oiling system, added the DLC coating to the cam lobes as well as the followers and tightened up the quality control on the raw parts before they were DLC coated.
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#24
Option 2. Better engine, better seats.
However, whichever way you go - at least do a few track days with it - you'll want to try and kill either of those engines and you should have a great time too while you're at it.
However, whichever way you go - at least do a few track days with it - you'll want to try and kill either of those engines and you should have a great time too while you're at it.
#25
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This is from my Independent Porsche mechanic who was the head of a Porsche maintenance facility. The real issue was an oiling problem not a metallurgy defect. If it was a problem with the metal, just replace all the parts with good metal and problem solved. That didn’t work. They kept redesigning the top end an effort to get the moving parts oiled properly so they wouldn’t have premature wear on the cam lobes, finger followers. It took a number of attempts but they seemed to finally have fixed the problem. It was a design flaw they didn’t want to admit to. I know nothing about the specifics, but this theory makes more sense to me.
I do believe they got it right with the G6, so now the problem with Option 2 as a G0, perhaps it’s better but may be harder to kill within the warranty window. Anecdotally, I know of a local ‘16 owner who just had a replacement. That original 2014 seems like a safer gamble if you’re gunning for a replacement.
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Mthrice (02-11-2022)
#26
I can’t wait for the expiration period on this bloody 10 year warranty. Looking forward to what the aftermarket techs can do to these engines. It’s not like the other cars don’t suffer engine failures. Shoot, Chevy & Fords burn up within two years. My engine is rocking, but I’d welcome the opportunity to juice it up to 600 HP in a heart beat. But I’m hamstrung by a warranty I may never use. We’re in the worse of spots, since we can’t do anything that may invalidate the warranty. My suggestion is buy the car you like the most. This is not an investment. It’s a high dollar toy we use to entertain ourselves and pretend like we’re better than those less able. When you pull up next to a Ferrari, you don’t feel so special. And as stated before, it’s best used on the track. Send out pictures of your new toy so we can all congratulate you and weigh in on the color, wheels etc.
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#27
Now knowing that replacment engine is a G0, personally I would keep looking until a car with a G6 becomes available, otherwise I'd be constantly worried about the engine and stressing about every noise that it makes. That's what I did, and I'll continue to renew the extended warranty (I'm in UK) for as long as possible too, just for peace of mind.
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#28
This has always been my take. I know they said a bunch of stuff at that COG meeting to side step a mass recall and shut everybody up.
I do believe they got it right with the G6, so now the problem with Option 2 as a G0, perhaps it’s better but may be harder to kill within the warranty window. Anecdotally, I know of a local ‘16 owner who just had a replacement. That original 2014 seems like a safer gamble if you’re gunning for a replacement.
I do believe they got it right with the G6, so now the problem with Option 2 as a G0, perhaps it’s better but may be harder to kill within the warranty window. Anecdotally, I know of a local ‘16 owner who just had a replacement. That original 2014 seems like a safer gamble if you’re gunning for a replacement.
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itrsteve (02-17-2022)
#29
Car #1 is practically guaranteed to fail, its just a matter of time and miles. My 2016 G engine failed after 17K miles and I just had it replaced with a G6, which is likely good for 100K miles or more. If I was you, id take Car #2. EDIT: Just noticed that Car # 2 is a G0, which in my personal experience is just as apt to fail as the previous E and F engines, although it may take a little longer.
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