Originally Posted by zmon

Did you have track insurance? does not sound like it because you did not mention it, but if you did you can talk to them. see if its something they would cover? might not insure you again, but would be a "cost of deductible" to get the situation resolved and your car back on the road.

Originally Posted by srwhitman

I only mention suing as I'm angry but I realize that there is no way that will make monetary sense - too much money to fight big corp and likely to lose.

Agreed, yes, its my fault but the 7.4s data without a day/time and no way for them to prove that just doesn't make sense. They could put me on a lie detector test and a stack of bibles and I guarantee you I would say that at most my accidental downshift was at most 1-2 sec. If they could tell me for sure it was the same date I was at the track and show me a graphical chart to prove it, then I'd believe it. But my understanding is that they can't do that. Hence I question the data. I talked to the dealer service mgr who agreed w/me that it sounded suspicious. He thought maybe it might make sense if there was a spin or other "off" but I've never done that to this car.

My point was merely to state - yes, I agree I did the accidental downshift but I just have a hard time believing their data is accurate. Software is not perfect. I would believe I went into range 3 but range 6 seems impossible given the circumstances and length of time and *thats* why I think it should be covered under warranty. But I'm just the little guy.

I held off from posting for 5 weeks because I worried about the implications but at this point, well, frankly, I have nothing to lose.

BTW, to those who might be asking - I'm not planning on selling the car. You are not going to get a deal. I'd be asking at least $150K and I doubt in its current condition its worth that. So I'm going to repair it one way or another. I do love the car and I've done some mods for the track (harness and harness bar, updated seats, girodisc, track brakes) that would add quite a bit to the price if one were to try to duplicate that on a stock car. Besides, the color is awesome. Of course, as the dealer told me when they first got back to me - right now its an expensive paperweight. Ouch, that hurts.

Originally Posted by rhk118

Sorry to read this. Question on the DME report - Did they say that the 7.4 seconds overrev was all in Range 6? or was that a cumulative time of Range 1-6? I agree that seems like way too much given the situation you describe, but if you track a lot there are likely overrevs in Ranges 1-3 no matter how careful you think you are with the manual and perhaps that 7.4 seconds is a cumulative overrev over lifetime of the engine range? Just a thought, probably wrong, and likely won't change the course of things.then you lose out on the 2 year motor warranty.

Originally Posted by dgrobs

Don't these cars have auto blip/rev match (mine does) to prevent the over revs?

When I started tracking my 6MT 991.2 GT3, I stopped heel toe and just used the auto blip when in a downshift.

I kinda thought that prevented the over revs. Not the case? I was under the impression with the blip engaged, the car won't let you downshift into a gear that's too low.

Sorry to hear of the OP's issues. Sucks....

Originally Posted by rhk118

Yes the autoblip could prevent overrevs from an aggressive blip to the limiter (but it wouldn't go past in that instance), and I *imagine* that if downshifting into too low a gear that the auto-blip function would also be limited by the rev-limiter, but very different story when the clutch is let out and its a mechanical wheels-tranny-engine overrev that no software could ever prevent in a manual.

Originally Posted by dgrobs

Don't these cars have auto blip/rev match (mine does) to prevent the over revs?

When I started tracking my 6MT 991.2 GT3, I stopped heel toe and just used the auto blip when in a downshift.

I kinda thought that prevented the over revs. Not the case? I was under the impression with the blip engaged, the car won't let you downshift into a gear that's too low.

Sorry to hear of the OP's issues. Sucks....

Originally Posted by dgrobs

Don't these cars have auto blip/rev match (mine does) to prevent the over revs?

When I started tracking my 6MT 991.2 GT3, I stopped heel toe and just used the auto blip when in a downshift.

I kinda thought that prevented the over revs. Not the case? I was under the impression with the blip engaged, the car won't let you downshift into a gear that's too low.

Sorry to hear of the OP's issues. Sucks....

Originally Posted by mooty

u guys worry way too much
1. don't money shift
2. when you money shift, just cut a check buy a new car


btw, if you money shifted driving on street, you really should just buy PDK or quit driving all together.
if you money shifted racing, will racing is expensive. and blowing up cars, engine, and. such are part of the fun. if u haven't lost an engine or gearbox on track, you are going too slow.

Originally Posted by rob944s2

You could also argue that the auto-blip makes it easier to money shift because the lever might slip into the lower gear easier than it otherwise would since the synchros are spun up.