Would you buy a 991.1 GT3 today?
#61
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Seems like everyone picking up cars in here are grabbing 15’s. Is there a reason you all are avoiding 14’s? Since the goal is to aim for getting the motor out anyhow?
Any reason to opt for F over E1 given both seem prone to the issue?
are there any other changes between 14 and 15 not related to the engine? Better PDK, software etc?
Better to get a 14 that is specced how you want or keep skipping the 14’s for the 15’s? Some really nice 14’s out there right now.
Any reason to opt for F over E1 given both seem prone to the issue?
are there any other changes between 14 and 15 not related to the engine? Better PDK, software etc?
Better to get a 14 that is specced how you want or keep skipping the 14’s for the 15’s? Some really nice 14’s out there right now.
#62
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Man you are really sweatin’ this on FB and here. I get it, but just wait for what’s best for you and don’t settle. The right one will come up, I promise.
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
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#63
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Man you are really sweatin’ this on FB and here. I get it, but just wait for what’s best for you and don’t settle. The right one will come up, I promise.
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
Carry on.
#64
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I wouldn't hesitate to pick up a .1 GT3 at a $40K delta to an equally equipped .2 GT3. From a re-sale perspective, the dealer isn't going to lower your trade-in value specifically because of the .1 engine issue (this would likely only apply to a private sale), and from a warranty perspective, Porsche's good faith has been demonstrated numerous times globally. Buy the car, pocket the $40K and enjoy!! That said when I was in the market 3 years ago for a 991 GT3, I sought and bought a MY16 G6 engine car. I didn't avoid the MY14-15 cars because of either re-sale/value depreciation nor warranty issues...for me the x-factor was downtime to get a replacement engine shipped and installed. Those who know me, know that I track my car quite a bit and if the .1 engine where to go, it would most likely be during the track season. The prospect of being without a track car for 2-3 months, during peak track season here in the Northeast, while everything got sorted wasn't appealing. So indirectly you could say the engine issue led me to the G6, but it wasn't re-sale/value nor warranty concerns, for me it was downtime. If that isn't a factor for you, then go for it.
so if the motor went today, G6 would be the replacement?
anything else to look out for on something that is tracked more than 20 times per year?
#65
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Looking for the perfect 991.1 GT3 and this thread is gold. Why none of them seem to come with the carbon buckets is a minor issue. Surprising how many dealers have no idea what motor is in the cars they have in stock.
so if the motor went today, G6 would be the replacement?
anything else to look out for on something that is tracked more than 20 times per year?
so if the motor went today, G6 would be the replacement?
anything else to look out for on something that is tracked more than 20 times per year?
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#66
Intermediate
You will be hard pressed to find a better car at the 991.1 GT3 price point. Pricing over the past 6 months seems to have firmed up or possibly gone up a little if anything. But I think it really depends on the options of the car. Stripper 14's and 15's might be the low 100's or it would have to be in seriously poor shape and miles to be below. Quick glance online (not that its the end all), but 15's seem to range from 120-140K depending on mileage and options. But I didn't buy the car for resale, though it did factor a little. I had a 2019 C63s Coupe on order but ended up finding the GT I wanted. I would have taken a bath on that AMG. I have an F engine, got a little over 28K miles on it. I bought it to drive and I don't think too much about it, just enjoy the hell out of it every time I get in it. I might worry about a really low mileage car honestly, but one that has been driven might be the better option.
#67
Racer
We have to separate 'ask' and what cars will actually bring. The market is a bit manic right now and I see a lot of people fishing for big $ that may not be there. The market has certainly gone positive, just not sure its gone up as much as sellers hope.
#68
There's definitely a difference between ask and actual sales price, but I don't see 991.1 GT3s going much lower than they are. It's an amazing car. One of the UK Porsche magazines called it one of the best values on the market.
#69
Burning Brakes
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#70
I have a 2015. Drove it 10,000 kms and the motor let go, New Motor installed under warranty (G Motor) - driven 5,000kms thus far and the car feel strong and rock solid.
The 991 GT3 is great value for money, once the 10yr warranty on the motor runs out you can get it extended for peace of mind.
With the 992GT3 having more than 10% increase in price ($184k base in Canada) over the 991.2GT3 and with a shortage of microchips supply there will be probably be limited supply until things change; I don't see 991.1 or 991.2 GT3's dropping in price for a while.
The 991 GT3 is great value for money, once the 10yr warranty on the motor runs out you can get it extended for peace of mind.
With the 992GT3 having more than 10% increase in price ($184k base in Canada) over the 991.2GT3 and with a shortage of microchips supply there will be probably be limited supply until things change; I don't see 991.1 or 991.2 GT3's dropping in price for a while.
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#71
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Great conversation guys. Just my 2c here since I went through the same decision process a couple months ago before purchasing a 2015 .1 GT3 - engine, reliability, value vs. a .2 GT3, resale and everything else in between.
Here's what I ended up doing:
1. Purchased a PTS Ice Blue .1 with about 40K miles that was used regularly and for DE events (but not tracked). It is the only Ice Bblue .1 GT3 in NA and there's only 1 other 991.2 I know of with the same color. I figured if it's been 40K miles of usage, the chances of a blown engine are remote and even then, the warranty covers it.
2. I acquired it from a local fellow RLer who took very good care of it and added 10K+ mods (which I can sell when I replace with stock parts)
3. Did multiple inspections at Porsche dealerships while it was still under CPO to make sure it was in perfect condition.
4. Finally, I think I got a good price on it (sub 110k for an original 170k MSRP car).
I found it hard to justify extra for .2 GT3. What's going to be the floor for the 991 generation in 10 years - 100-105k maybe? Even the "hated" 996 GT3s are going for mid-90k or higher for good condition vehicles! There are some good deals to be had on the .1 - there are just NO deals on every other generation whether 997, 991.2 and forget the 992. Even my 997.2 TTS is selling for 10% more than what I purchased it for last year, which is totally nuts.
And in the meantime, look what you're missing out on (some pics below)! Good luck to everyone on the fence!!!
Here's what I ended up doing:
1. Purchased a PTS Ice Blue .1 with about 40K miles that was used regularly and for DE events (but not tracked). It is the only Ice Bblue .1 GT3 in NA and there's only 1 other 991.2 I know of with the same color. I figured if it's been 40K miles of usage, the chances of a blown engine are remote and even then, the warranty covers it.
2. I acquired it from a local fellow RLer who took very good care of it and added 10K+ mods (which I can sell when I replace with stock parts)
3. Did multiple inspections at Porsche dealerships while it was still under CPO to make sure it was in perfect condition.
4. Finally, I think I got a good price on it (sub 110k for an original 170k MSRP car).
I found it hard to justify extra for .2 GT3. What's going to be the floor for the 991 generation in 10 years - 100-105k maybe? Even the "hated" 996 GT3s are going for mid-90k or higher for good condition vehicles! There are some good deals to be had on the .1 - there are just NO deals on every other generation whether 997, 991.2 and forget the 992. Even my 997.2 TTS is selling for 10% more than what I purchased it for last year, which is totally nuts.
And in the meantime, look what you're missing out on (some pics below)! Good luck to everyone on the fence!!!
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#72
That wing...
#73
No not ever
#74
Man you are really sweatin’ this on FB and here. I get it, but just wait for what’s best for you and don’t settle. The right one will come up, I promise.
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
2015s main option differentiators were sport chrono w/track precision timer capability, and LWBS.
That said, If you want to buy my 21k chassis, 10k mile G6 2015 w/buckets for 130k just let me know
#75
Rennlist Member
Looking for the perfect 991.1 GT3 and this thread is gold. Why none of them seem to come with the carbon buckets is a minor issue. Surprising how many dealers have no idea what motor is in the cars they have in stock.
so if the motor went today, G6 would be the replacement?
anything else to look out for on something that is tracked more than 20 times per year?
so if the motor went today, G6 would be the replacement?
anything else to look out for on something that is tracked more than 20 times per year?
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