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Old 02-26-2021, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gesler
Engine replacement, extension of warranty and $3500 for 4 weeks, a period that the majority of GT3/GT3RS drivers barely drive the car: sounds like amazing customer service.

OP’s aim of trying to help others in similar situation is commendable. The dissatisfaction at how Porsche responded sounds unreasonable. The resale value may have decreased (not sure in today’s market) but one can argue the company’s take is this was a car made to be driven, not an investment.
Far from amazing customer service... I didn't feel the need to lay out all the details. I shipped the the car out to AZ from my home in FL to enjoy the Grand Canyon and scenery over the winter. This happened while I was out in AZ and the car was serviced by the local AZ dealer. The car was stranded 2k miles from my home. I had to fly back to AZ to pick-up the car from dealer to put it back on transporter back east. Never made it to the Grand Canyon but I didn't feel it was relevant.

The real question which no one has commented on- is who else with a catastrophic engine failure is out there on the interwebs? PCNA uses NDAs to shut people up. If it's no one, fine- even good. I just have bad luck. **** happens. That's what I'm trying to figure out!
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Originally Posted by oliver991
Abuse the car? Ridiculous. Yes the car was completely warmed up. You are missing the point here. The point is there are a number of 991.2 GT3RS engine failures being reported and there is a larger issue. Larger issue requires different response.
Some anecdotes from the internet do not a pattern make. Porsche sees all the data on maintenance for these cars. If there were a widespread problem you would see a stop sale and voluntary recall, as happened with the 991.1 GT3. Time will tell if this is another such situation, but you (and I) don't have the data to make that claim right now.

Given that, they have treated you more than fairly. From what you've said, I don't think there is anything they could have done to please you here. Sell the car and move on.
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:52 AM
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Just looked back at the photo in the first post. Is that exhaust stock?
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by oliver991
Abuse the car? Ridiculous. Yes the car was completely warmed up. You are missing the point here. The point is there are a number of 991.2 GT3RS engine failures being reported and there is a larger issue. Larger issue requires different response.
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The question is how widespread is it? That's the point. I have received some PMs from people who have had similar issues. I'm writing to see if others have had the same catastrophic engine failure. I have no interest in a class action law suit. My interest lies in finding out if there is a widespread issue and if so seeking a resolution.
You come out guns blazing saying there is a serious and widespread problem and then you say you are just trying to find out if anyone else has experienced the problem. Which is it, man? Seems like you are just mad and this isn't about facts.

Buy that Ferrari and be happy for the week before you hit your first problem.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:15 AM
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While I am sorry you had to go through this I think what they did was 1) more than they needed to do based on what was committed to when you bought the car and 2) fair. If there was a widespread issue with .2 motors we’d know by now given this is the largest Porsche forum out there...

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Oliver. All the replies side with Porsche. Don’t take offense but all the rattle shaking on your end is starting to look bad. You get what you get don’t get upset. You’re not getting anything more. There is no widespread problem with the engine. Sell the car, don’t buy another, move on to another brand.....
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I completely agree with you Oliver on the diminishing value and I’m willing to give you $50k sight unseen if you want to sell it.
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I completely agree with you Oliver on the diminishing value and I’m willing to give you $50k sight unseen if you want to sell it.
hahahaha, are you sure that’s not a bit high?

But seriously, I think Porsche did the right thing here and I’m not sure that you would have been happy with anything they offered you. Sell your car and move forward BUT if this episode was bad in your opinion do not buy Tesla, McLaren, Ferrari or Mercedes as I have had FAR worse experiences with the service on those brands than I have ever had on any of my Porsches.
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:37 AM
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OP is a snowflake. You're not as important as you think you are.

Car is fixed so either drive the crap out of it now that it's "worthless" (which it is not), or sell it and move on if you're losing sleep over it. Even if you were given a 10-year warranty, you would not keep it for that long anyway so what's the point.
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Old 02-27-2021, 08:44 AM
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You have zero diminished value. You have a new motor, and an extended warranty. Your car's value has increased.
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So I still don't see any posts on a significant number of engine failures on this forum. At the track we're about close to 20 with the PDK setup GT3 and RS and not one failure after 3 years of tracking. So far so good...
I would have expected a deluge of postings on this thread by owners reporting engine failures if truly there was an issue.
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:15 AM
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A lot of people come to Internet forums seeking validation, often under the premise of alerting others to the same (potential) issue. The consensus here has been that Porsche responded effectively and appropriately to the problem. Even if the particular issue the OP describes is generalizable to a wider number of cars does it matter if they respond appropriately to each occurrence? As others have pointed out the widespread .1 GT3 engine issues were effectively addressed by owners and Porsche. I don’t think the OP is going to get a “we was robbed” supporting consensus and should make a personal decision to be satisfied with the outcome from Porsche, or sell and be satisfied with the knowledge that he will not repeat the same mistake.
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bsquare
Just looked back at the photo in the first post. Is that exhaust stock?
100% stock everything. Put on your glasses.
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:10 PM
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OP, obviously people will give differing opinions regarding whether the compensation was adequate or not, that’s a matter of debate.

Was any specific fault diagnosed or was the whole engine shipped back to Germany for root cause analysis?
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Old 02-27-2021, 12:25 PM
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Amazing dude comes on here and wants advice and hates it ............100% of the responses you were treated fairly, and then you say ohhh I didn’t provide all the information. Clearly we see who’s the problem go enjoy the car or sell it ........it has a new 100k motor from the factory. Porsche analyzes all engine replacements, and if the problem was wide spread they would issue a recall like the 2014’s. They have lots to risk with a bad motor so I’m sure they will always do the right thing by a customer and you still haven’t said what you want??
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