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silvertige

Turbos are less desirable and the market reflects that. It is what it is, and has been that way for some time. GT cars just have a more visceral feel/ special feeling.

Big Swole

I guess that just means Porsche makes more because they know there's More Real Men out there that aren't afraid of the Raw power the Turbo's make compared to the GT cars. LOL

Less real men to sell them too, so the price stays up!!!











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J/K folks...Had to take a dig at you GT Elitist lol.

shapiroeric

The GT3 and Turbo are not the same market segment....the Turbo S is over 30% more expensive than the GT3, has back seats, and produced in higher numbers....yet people continue to compare their markets

usrodeo4

They are EXTREMELY high MSRP prices but they build as many as they can sell and everyone knows the next gen is going to be the same car just faster so it has no where to go but down...Supply and Demand. They are rocket ships but they are everywhere.

Agentorange

Simply supply and demand.

It even exists inside the GT market itself. Look at the price discrepancy between a white .1GT3 and an Arena Red .1GT3 w/ similar specs.
There are simply a butt ton of white and like 3 Arena Red, so you pay a premium for the red.

Plus daily driven Turbo’s get a ton of miles on them. How many GT cars have 40k miles on the clock? I’ll wait.......
Like a hand full.
I can pull up many Turbo’s for sale currently with that mileage.

FastLaneTurbo

When I bought my 930 Turbo in 1979, billed by Porsche as the "first and last year of the Turbo in the U.S." many were
sold with a $100K ADM added to its $44K price. The only semi-sensible way to get mine at MSRP was to buy another
standard 911 (which delighted my 2 sons that I gave the keys) Rumors were half of the 930's went in backwards.
Despite its quality of having either too little HP or, (when Boost came in) too much HP, I dearly loved that car and the
highly enjoyable lessons it gave me in controlling sudden boost in Track Driving and dicing with another 930 as the
Big Apple PCA Region Track Chjairman at Lime Rock as Instructors.. Porsche returned to the U.S. with their 930
5 Years later but by that time the Suspension Geometry was totally changed. My 1987 930 was a highly docile
understeering car. The Snap oversteer on boost of the 79 Turbo was totally gone. Having owned and tracked Turbos
and GT3's ever since, anyone who believes that later Turbos cannot match the laptimes of GT3's are wrong.

GrantG

I don't doubt that for a minute. It's just that the smile on my face while lapping the GT3 is much wider

Gary(SF)

Did Porsche want everyone to forget the '76-'77 930 Turbo (I think some were sold in Europe as '75s iirc)? A friend of mine bought a new '76 and I did a Euro delivery on a new '77.

Pic taken about 1982

GrantG

I’m not forgetting - I’m guessing that coy remark from the dealer must’ve really splitting hairs between “Turbo Carrera” and “Turbo”. Of course, first “Turbo” was ‘78 and they’re still making them...

Gary(SF)

I wondered if that was it...mighty fine hair to split for sure...

catdog2

The 991 turbo has an appeal of its own, it may be less 'emotional' that GT3 but has a charm of it own, excellent daily driver, great traction
in any weather, amazing torque and no fuss power delivery and comfortable and quiet. Lovely car

chance6

I maintain that there are things, driving things, that a TTS can do but a GT3 cannot. The traction is remarkable and can be exploited in all conditions.

catdog2

Exactly, well said, 991TT very nicely insulated and quieter than regular Carrera line. It's my new daily driver (991.1TT) and it's simply amazing in that role, comfortable, sporty, amazing traction/performance/handling and I actually like the quieter engine with its gobs of torque and low bass anger when on it. Completely different feel from 991.2 C2S engine wise (even though both are turbo obviously) and it's not in the same space as GT3/GT3RS on any level other than maybe similar performance in certain tracks etc. It's certainly a much better more multi-dimensional daily; I have snow tires on it right now and looking forward to the incoming 12 inches of snow.. Could not say that with a GT3/RS even if on same tires, RS doesn't even have back window defroster lol...and hey, it's nice to have a sunroof every now and then

Deven

Looking at recent history, the 996 and 997 GT3's were priced closer to the Carrera models than the Turbo's with essentially no options. My 2006 C2S Cab, when optioned out cost more than a 2006 GT3. Personally, I really believed that my next car was going to be the TTS at some point. The GT cars were great to look at, but extremely impractical.

Once the 991 generation was announced, I basically had no desire of buying a 991 because of the direction the company as a whole was going. Every car was a 'turbo', and the TT lost the MT. The only car that had perked my interest was the GTS. With a MT, probably rivalled (surpassed) the 996/997 TT's in many facets except for the badging.

The 991.1 GT3 was interesting, much more drivable than prior generations, but once they dropped the MT in the .2, it was the car I 'needed' to have. The TT is probably the car I should have gotten, as it is probably 'better' than the GT3 in almost every facet for the enthusiast like myself. The problem was that I no longer 'longed' for a TTS like I did years past. I think that is probably a reflection of a decent population of GT3 owners as well. It probably also reflects why the 'touring' is so popular, as it probably can be viewed as the 'real' heir to the 997 Carrera.

It seems that the popularity of the 997 Carrera has also spike over the last couple of years, probably for the same reasons (naturally aspirated, manual transmission, more driver engagement because of less amenities, 'louder' etc).

I think the 'elitism' is more about us wanting to relive the past but in a 'modern' shell. Though so tempting to replace my 997 with a newer TT cab, I don't think I will. If Porsche wants me to buy a TT, they will need to drop a 6 speed MT in one. My wife would kill me of course, but that would be some automotive nirvana having a TT and GT in the same garage.