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Old 08-28-2020, 02:52 PM
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Sounds like GM bringing a real engine to the game

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/ne...v-to-9000-rpm/
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Wonder if it'll be DOHC or pushrod (OHV).
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This will be amazing and will force manufacturers to start stepping again
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I've never owned a vette and got a new C8 and that's the first thing I noticed was the redline compared to my other cars. I do like the mid engine and performance isn't bad. Also, get a ton of looks as people think its a ferrari or lambo.
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the z06 should completely eclipse 991 GT cars save for perhaps the gt2. too bad it will likely be auto only
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How many years have people said the same about the Vette?

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Old 08-28-2020, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tqevo
the z06 should completely eclipse 991 GT cars save for perhaps the gt2. too bad it will likely be auto only
There is some talk about having a pseudo-manual where the DCT is controlled (via drive-by-wire) a clutch pedal and shifter. Sounds difficult to implement well...
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Wonder if it'll be DOHC or pushrod (OHV).
Good question. I bet they could do it with pushrods if they wanted to, like Porsche sticking with air-cooled for longer than they could have. Probably depends on the cost of exotic materials versus changing the engine design.

Is the ZO6 historically a much different engine than the standard car’s engine?
Old 08-28-2020, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Wonder if it'll be DOHC or pushrod (OHV).
It'll be a DOHC.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/hear...ng-first-time/

The design is done and running, complete with restrictors since it's making more power than the class allows.
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I'm going out on a limb here: NO way it will be a pushrod engine at 9000 revs. You can't imagine what needs to happen in a V8 to make big revs with pushrods.
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Originally Posted by cscrogham
I'm going out on a limb here: NO way it will be a pushrod engine at 9000 revs. You can't imagine what needs to happen in a V8 to make big revs with pushrods.
Not going to disagree with you, but haven’t NASCAR engines been doing that now for decades? My only point is that decades seems to be a long time for that tech to filter down to a passenger car?
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Originally Posted by Mike Murphy
Not going to disagree with you, but haven’t NASCAR engines been doing that now for decades? My only point is that decades seems to be a long time for that tech to filter down to a passenger car?
Nascar and road are incomparable in terms of requirements.
A decade is about right to make any race automotive tech reliable, cheap enough (how to manufacturer it in the order of thousands) to apply to production road cars. This can be a bolt, a design/technology, a big part, a material.
If you want it now it, just do it yourself/ on your own account.
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Originally Posted by Mike Murphy
Good question. I bet they could do it with pushrods if they wanted to, like Porsche sticking with air-cooled for longer than they could have. Probably depends on the cost of exotic materials versus changing the engine design.

Is the ZO6 historically a much different engine than the standard car’s engine?
Yes, the Z06 has had a significantly different engine from the 5th generation (2001) on. Displacement differences as well as forged internals (7th gen).

I've enjoyed my Z06s of the past, but have zero desire to get the new model if there is no manual trans option. Wife doesn't think I need a new toy anyway, since we got the GT3.

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Originally Posted by Mike Murphy
Not going to disagree with you, but haven’t NASCAR engines been doing that now for decades? My only point is that decades seems to be a long time for that tech to filter down to a passenger car?
I'm sure if everyone was trying to achieve the same outcome with a pushrod engine, it could be achieved inside of a decade (a 9k rpm pushrod engine). However, very few manufacturers are persisting with performance pushrod engines, so having one that revs high isn't some sort of goal manufacturers are targeting. I guess that's why Ford decided to go with the tried-and-true template of a overhead cam design for their GT350 instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
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Old 08-28-2020, 06:40 PM
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Sounds pretty cool if they pull it off. I can’t say i really miss the high rpms in my ZR1 though. All hell breaks loose from just about idle, so things get really busy really fast. I can jump on my GT3, let the revs build, look down at the tach and still time the shifts well. In the ZR1 everything just seems to happen a lot faster. High reving versus fast reving? No idea. But a 9k rpm v8 woukd be pretty cool.
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