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Old 06-21-2020, 01:00 PM
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I'm looking at a few gt2rs and 720s, if I can get the right deal, I'll pick one up. Also, want to try a 720s which can be had for low to mid 200's and still under warranty.
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Old 06-21-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by richk
Interesting perspective and thanks for sharing. I had a 992S loaner car last week and its a beast. The 992TTS will be stupid fast.

Will be interesting to see what you decide. I moved from a 2015 991TTS to a 2016 991RS and I am in love with the NA GT cars. That said I will have a GT2RS one day.
My friend with extensive Track experience has recently sold his GT2RS and bought a 992 Carrera S. His comments verify yours. These are his comments and advice to me from a recent E-Mail he sent me after his first Track Experience at Sebring with his new 992 Carrera S:

"The 992 is a better car, no question about it. I think its a wise choice to go 992 S, and 992 GT3, …….unless you can get a 2RS for 200-220K in the next year or so. "
"I ran a 2:23 in the 992, I picked it up on a Wednesday and tracked it that Saturday, the car had 120 miles on it. (proper break-in) I think its a 2:19 car with proper breaks and a clean track.
(I'll push for it this fall" Anyone who has tracked Sebring will recognize these Lap Times in a Stock Carrera S with street Tires as being VERY fast.

Below is his GT2RS next to my GT3 at Sebring during an HPDE Day













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Old 06-21-2020, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by M3the01
They are fun...
I am not going to comment on price - but dang - that's a good looking car!

For me it would come down to the track - if you want the fastest track car - this is the one to have.. I am not talking about modding etc.
Old 06-21-2020, 06:26 PM
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Randy likes it.


And still king of the hill....
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
Old 06-21-2020, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Randy likes it.


And still king of the hill....
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs
The really impressive lap on that list is Chris Winkler. Incredible.
Old 06-21-2020, 07:32 PM
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FYI all, OP car is at Porsche Bellevue, WA, an Auto Nation shop, priced at $299... On floor now. No vested interest here, check with Rob, great guy who I've dealt with. Scott
Old 06-21-2020, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Very fast lap for a street car.
Old 06-21-2020, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR

This is why I think at some point they level off $50K over whatever the GT3RS goes for.
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I agree that at some point they trade at some adder to 991.2 3rs values; 50k seems pretty reasonable.
Just so I am clear, you are suggesting that within 1 month to 3 years, a 3RS will go for 170K (Median MSRP of 227K) and a 2RS will go for 220K (Median MSRP of 342K). If that is true, sure are a lot of suckers (basically all of them) who purchased a GT2 at MSRP.

My guess is that the delta, if both cars are in same condition, miles, desirable options, color, etc will be 115K, which also disregards the lower quantity of GT2RS produced vs GT3RS

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Old 06-21-2020, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Just so I am clear, you are suggesting that within 1 month to 3 years, a 3RS will go for 170K (Median MSRP of 227K) and a 2RS will go for 220K (Median MSRP of 342K). If that is true, sure are a lot of suckers (basically all of them) who purchased a GT2 at MSRP.

My guess is that the delta, if both cars are in same condition, miles, desirable options will never be less than 100K, which makes sense as the base MSRP is a delta of 100K.
I wouldn't say people who bought the GT2 RS at MSRP are suckers. The only suckers are those people who bought solely because they thought it was going to be a big flip and easy money for them. This was largely driven by clueless speculators that heard that "GT cars always make money". Didn't help that Jalopnik or some other reputable auto journal published a widely false article stating that there were only 1000 GT2RS produced worldwide.
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Originally Posted by mass27
Just so I am clear, you are suggesting that within 1 month to 3 years, a 3RS will go for 170K (Median MSRP of 227K) and a 2RS will go for 220K (Median MSRP of 342K). If that is true, sure are a lot of suckers (basically all of them) who purchased a GT2 at MSRP.

My guess is that the delta, if both cars are in same condition, miles, desirable options will never be less than 100K, which makes sense as the base MSRP is a delta of 100K.
Could be, i don't have a crystal ball. I don't think anyone is a sucker for buying a car that depreciates over time; most do. 991-2rs no exception. 100k+ sounds a little rich but maybe 50k is too close. Idk?
Old 06-21-2020, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTurbo

"The 992 is a better car, no question about it. I think its a wise choice to go 992 S, and 992 GT3, …….unless you can get a 2RS for 200-220K in the next year or so. "
"I ran a 2:23 in the 992, I picked it up on a Wednesday and tracked it that Saturday, the car had 120 miles on it. (proper break-in) I think its a 2:19 car with proper breaks and a clean track.
(I'll push for it this fall" Anyone who has tracked Sebring will recognize these Lap Times in a Stock Carrera S with street Tires as being VERY fast.
Comparing a 992 Carrera S to a gt2rs? Come on, these aren't even in remotely the same space.
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Originally Posted by M3the01
Comparing a 992 Carrera S to a gt2rs? Come on, these aren't even in remotely the same space.
I dont think he was doing that - at all. He was just suggesting that the 992 "platform" is going to produce some amazing variants (i.e. GT3, RS, GT2RS) if the base Carrera S is anything to go by. The 992 Turbo has a 60HP increase over the 991.2 - largest improvement in Porsche history - and some have suggested (cleaning ladies) that the Gt3 will be a huge leap forward from the 991.2. So he is extrapolating / projecting that the 992 Gt2Rs will be even more insane. I think the GT2RS is insane - right now - king of the hill. But there will be new kings in 1-2 years time.
Old 06-22-2020, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rodsky
I dont think he was doing that - at all. He was just suggesting that the 992 "platform" is going to produce some amazing variants (i.e. GT3, RS, GT2RS) if the base Carrera S is anything to go by. The 992 Turbo has a 60HP increase over the 991.2 - largest improvement in Porsche history - and some have suggested (cleaning ladies) that the Gt3 will be a huge leap forward from the 991.2. So he is extrapolating / projecting that the 992 Gt2Rs will be even more insane. I think the GT2RS is insane - right now - king of the hill. But there will be new kings in 1-2 years time.
Gotcha... It is likely going to be a long while till the 992 gt2rs comes out. As per the naturally aspirated variants, nearly impossible to move those HP numbers. There's many amazing cars coming and I'm not dropping this car until I see something that interests me and if I lose a $100k every cent was worth it, one should expects so much. The car is so damn amazing at the track, can't really ask for much more. I will be interested in the next hypercar variant but that again is for different reasons. If u want bang for ur buck, grab the Corvette z06 when it's released, if price is ur only concern.
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Originally Posted by M3the01
Gotcha... It is likely going to be a long while till the 992 gt2rs comes out. As per the naturally aspirated variants, nearly impossible to move those HP numbers.
Agree on both counts. Until the 992 GT2RS comes out in 5+ years, you should keep your current 2RS. If you truly track it, it's a more reliable car to regularly flog than a Mac or Ferrari.

Also agree re NA power. It's impossible to really move the HP numbers. This is why I'm very skeptical about those who say there will some big leap forward with the 992 GT3. If it gains 14 ft lbs and 40hp, it will match the largest power increases between GT car generations. That's nice, but it doesn't blow your doors off. The rubber and downforce will likely be far better, and thus a sub 7 min ring time. But on the 2-3 mile tracks most of us use, we'll see improvements, but not game changing improvements.
Old 06-22-2020, 08:30 AM
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If someone wants the mint 2RS i mentioned for 280k, here is the link. Please don't offer less as they are willing to move it quickly for 280k from their listed price, through your financing or theirs via woodside, makes no difference but a good spec car minus the seats for 280k, it has been the owners car since new. Plenty more deals out there as I was offered a higher spec one for just a little over a few weeks back with delivery miles.

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