GT2RS Clubsport vs 991.2 Cup Car Video
11-27-2019, 11:37 AM
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GT2RS Clubsport vs 991.2 Cup Car Video
Well it took some time but finally released! Hope you enjoy it. Really shows the variance between the cars.
https://www.pca.org/news/clubsport-v-cup
https://www.pca.org/news/clubsport-v-cup
11-27-2019, 10:43 PM
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Good stuff, although the gap (2:11.67 vs 2:11.98) between the 991.2 Cup in this video vs the 991.1 Cup in last match up is too small. Either track conditions were different, car set-up wasn't optimized or it's time to get Bryan Sellers back in the seat. 
11-28-2019, 10:16 AM
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What an incredibly interesting video! The question is always one of those or a 991 Cup for less than half the price. Based on this, the CS does make a case for itself though VFM the Cup is of course still the better choice.
Very curious how the running costs of the CS work out. I love the concept, but wish they had done something like this to a GT3RS and kept it road legal. Believe it was seriously considered but ultimately dropped.
Very curious how the running costs of the CS work out. I love the concept, but wish they had done something like this to a GT3RS and kept it road legal. Believe it was seriously considered but ultimately dropped.
11-28-2019, 10:34 AM
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Thanks for the video! It's very interesting and different from my own experience.
This 3s gap is huge vs. what I encountered when I tested these two back-to-back late October on my home track (Shanghai F1).
Being my first session in the GT2 ever, I ran the delivery setup and used no kerbs because of all the appendages under the floor. Best lap was a 2:09.2, Michelin N2 greens. Car struggled with understeer and braking on that initial setup. I reckon aggressive kerb use would give me 0.75-1.0s and dialing out the understeer another 0.5-0.75s. That's a high 07 / low 08 theoretical.
Right before driving the GT2 I did 3 sessions and ~45 laps in my 991.2 Cup. Best was a 2:09.0, also on N2 greens. That's a 1.0-1.5s gap to the GT2's theoretical.
FWIW, my 991.2 Cup is competitive in Carrera Cup and I placed her on pole on the same track.
TBH a 3s gap is what I'd expect between the Cup and the GT3. Almost everyone at Motorsports would handicap the GT2 midway between those two. That's what I encountered at Spa (I raced Spa 24H in a 991.2 GT3R this July and there were 20 GT2s doing a support event then). My own two cars with my own driving in Shanghai is another datapoint.
I wonder if the 991.2 Cup was properly set up... Leh's post-drive comments kinda hinted at not-as-stable braking. Now this will be one for the man himself to chime in...
This 3s gap is huge vs. what I encountered when I tested these two back-to-back late October on my home track (Shanghai F1).
Being my first session in the GT2 ever, I ran the delivery setup and used no kerbs because of all the appendages under the floor. Best lap was a 2:09.2, Michelin N2 greens. Car struggled with understeer and braking on that initial setup. I reckon aggressive kerb use would give me 0.75-1.0s and dialing out the understeer another 0.5-0.75s. That's a high 07 / low 08 theoretical.
Right before driving the GT2 I did 3 sessions and ~45 laps in my 991.2 Cup. Best was a 2:09.0, also on N2 greens. That's a 1.0-1.5s gap to the GT2's theoretical.
FWIW, my 991.2 Cup is competitive in Carrera Cup and I placed her on pole on the same track.
TBH a 3s gap is what I'd expect between the Cup and the GT3. Almost everyone at Motorsports would handicap the GT2 midway between those two. That's what I encountered at Spa (I raced Spa 24H in a 991.2 GT3R this July and there were 20 GT2s doing a support event then). My own two cars with my own driving in Shanghai is another datapoint.
I wonder if the 991.2 Cup was properly set up... Leh's post-drive comments kinda hinted at not-as-stable braking. Now this will be one for the man himself to chime in...
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12-02-2019, 01:57 PM
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Thanks for the video! It's very interesting and different from my own experience.
This 3s gap is huge vs. what I encountered when I tested these two back-to-back late October on my home track (Shanghai F1).
Being my first session in the GT2 ever, I ran the delivery setup and used no kerbs because of all the appendages under the floor. Best lap was a 2:09.2, Michelin N2 greens. Car struggled with understeer and braking on that initial setup. I reckon aggressive kerb use would give me 0.75-1.0s and dialing out the understeer another 0.5-0.75s. That's a high 07 / low 08 theoretical.
Right before driving the GT2 I did 3 sessions and ~45 laps in my 991.2 Cup. Best was a 2:09.0, also on N2 greens. That's a 1.0-1.5s gap to the GT2's theoretical.
FWIW, my 991.2 Cup is competitive in Carrera Cup and I placed her on pole on the same track.
TBH a 3s gap is what I'd expect between the Cup and the GT3. Almost everyone at Motorsports would handicap the GT2 midway between those two. That's what I encountered at Spa (I raced Spa 24H in a 991.2 GT3R this July and there were 20 GT2s doing a support event then). My own two cars with my own driving in Shanghai is another datapoint.
I wonder if the 991.2 Cup was properly set up... Leh's post-drive comments kinda hinted at not-as-stable braking. Now this will be one for the man himself to chime in...
This 3s gap is huge vs. what I encountered when I tested these two back-to-back late October on my home track (Shanghai F1).
Being my first session in the GT2 ever, I ran the delivery setup and used no kerbs because of all the appendages under the floor. Best lap was a 2:09.2, Michelin N2 greens. Car struggled with understeer and braking on that initial setup. I reckon aggressive kerb use would give me 0.75-1.0s and dialing out the understeer another 0.5-0.75s. That's a high 07 / low 08 theoretical.
Right before driving the GT2 I did 3 sessions and ~45 laps in my 991.2 Cup. Best was a 2:09.0, also on N2 greens. That's a 1.0-1.5s gap to the GT2's theoretical.
FWIW, my 991.2 Cup is competitive in Carrera Cup and I placed her on pole on the same track.
TBH a 3s gap is what I'd expect between the Cup and the GT3. Almost everyone at Motorsports would handicap the GT2 midway between those two. That's what I encountered at Spa (I raced Spa 24H in a 991.2 GT3R this July and there were 20 GT2s doing a support event then). My own two cars with my own driving in Shanghai is another datapoint.
I wonder if the 991.2 Cup was properly set up... Leh's post-drive comments kinda hinted at not-as-stable braking. Now this will be one for the man himself to chime in...
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12-03-2019, 04:42 PM
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Interesting video, thanks for sharing.
12-03-2019, 04:49 PM
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I saw the gt2rs cs at the los angeles experience center and it looks incredible