orthojoe

The GT3 puts down the power at corner exit really well. It always surprises me how much throttle you can apply and the car doesn't break away. Maybe it's more a function of the rear suspension than the rear engine?

Petevb

I think it’s also quite track dependent. Smoother tracks (camber, surface and corner layout) will flatter the GT4, at which point cornering performance largely comes down to balance and tire to weight. However struts show their limits as the suspension articulates, so basically anything that upsets the car. In those circumstances I find very obvious differences, and of course it’s those challenging bits where predictability is most valuable.

I believe the GT3’s rear suspension is far more responsible for its ability to put power down (vs the GT4) than its weight distribution. Some recent Corvettes achieve tremendous rear traction with a sophisticated multi-link but far worse weight distribution than the GT4.

siswati

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FORENN

Agree with you. I was underwhelmed by my GT4, didn’t keep it long. I guess we’ll see on the new GT4 but no interest from me.

Yargk

I have found this curious as well. I did PEC drives with a Cayman GTS and GT3 manual back to back. The difference between the GT3 and the Cayman GTS (as well my GT4 on other courses) with regard to corner exit grip was noticeable. I would find it hard to believe that it's weight alone, since that difference, although sizable (56% vs. 60%), doesn't seem as large as the grip difference I perceived. The other thing is that the rear breakaway under power and turning with the GT4 is a little more sudden than with the GT3. Seems like part of it has got to be dynamic toe and/or dynamic camber. Could be wrong though.

Of course corner entry and mid corner speeds are comparable. And the GT4 exits corners as well as almost any non-GT3 car. It was funny watching that Camaro chase you at Sonoma; he seemed to get frustrated that you got a car length on each corner exit

IPSA

The 4 is better on corner entry through mid corner where some of the recognized issues begin to show. The turn in transition favors the mid-engine platform.

3 better on exit bc of rear engine traction advantage on the loud pedal.

I agree w Joe, the 4 is more of a momentum car and will teach you more as you work your way toward faster cars.

I love my 4 and track it quite a bit but when I want to fly its all about the Lizard...

Cheers

merc5326

I own the GT3 now, but had both cars for a month before selling the GT4. So I conducted a few back to back experiments My expectations were high for the mid-engine platform, but in the end I didn't feel there was significant advantage. I'm sure a professional driver could exploit all of its attributes, but I'm not at that level. My GT3 just feels more planted, add in the 4 wheel steering and it's magical. On sharp turns I would even experience some wheel hop in the GT4, zero in the GT3. In a similar sharp turn with an off camber transition and the GT4 was definitely more squirrelly. As we all know, corner exit is great with any 911, but it's sublime with the GT3. Both cars are great I just really love my GT3.

groundhog

^^^^^this

RockyTopTenn

Trade you my GT3 even for a GT4. Not...

fxz

3 has massive traction exiting the corners
whilst any similar torque mid-engine car can brake later when entering and slower on exit

RSR was flipped cause mid engine have rubbers extended life and easier aero (thst s why on street legal the Pista doesn t have an RS wing)