991.2 GT3 Manual vs 997.2 RS
06-11-2019, 05:41 PM
#32
I think no one really gets the full experience of the 991.2 GT3 unless they remove the side mufflers at least. The car is extremely tame and muffled with the full stock system, imo. Mine was stock for the first 400 miles. Then put the Dundon Race headers for 400 miles. Went back to the full stock system, and the car felt anemic. I hated it. Then put the race headers back on and loved the car. Really changes the whole car.
06-11-2019, 06:22 PM
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Three Wheelin'
I think no one really gets the full experience of the 991.2 GT3 unless they remove the side mufflers at least. The car is extremely tame and muffled with the full stock system, imo. Mine was stock for the first 400 miles. Then put the Dundon Race headers for 400 miles. Went back to the full stock system, and the car felt anemic. I hated it. Then put the race headers back on and loved the car. Really changes the whole car.
06-11-2019, 07:25 PM
#34
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I think you could DD either of the cars if you really wanted to. Any Porsche 911 can be a DD, so just choose which one you love most and drive it all the time 
I DD my 991.2 3rs, it is very comfortable. I honestly think the people here who say a 997.X 3/rs are just wrong think that those are so far off to be "toys" and not be driven all the time. Still VERY much a modern Porsche. 997 is a land yacht compared to a 993, they are tame compared to a Ferrari, 993 is a land yacht compared to a 356, it goes on forever and remember people used to DD those 356's! Carrera GT, Ferrari enzo stradale scuderia, yeah those are not DD's to today's standards. Any modern 911 fill in the blank is...that's what makes them the best imo
I mean u got a model T, 356 speedster, a 250 GTO, and a carrera GT in your garage all brand new....Which one is ur daily now? hahahaha it is ALL relative
Remember Miles are Smiles
I DD my 991.2 3rs, it is very comfortable. I honestly think the people here who say a 997.X 3/rs are just wrong think that those are so far off to be "toys" and not be driven all the time. Still VERY much a modern Porsche. 997 is a land yacht compared to a 993, they are tame compared to a Ferrari, 993 is a land yacht compared to a 356, it goes on forever and remember people used to DD those 356's! Carrera GT, Ferrari enzo stradale scuderia, yeah those are not DD's to today's standards. Any modern 911 fill in the blank is...that's what makes them the best imo
I mean u got a model T, 356 speedster, a 250 GTO, and a carrera GT in your garage all brand new....Which one is ur daily now? hahahaha it is ALL relative
Remember Miles are Smiles
06-11-2019, 09:25 PM
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.2 GT3 6MT all day long
06-12-2019, 01:29 AM
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haha, I have more than one of each 991.1gt3/rs 991.2gt3/rs/t. if you add up all the 991.1gt variant out 25k miles, 991.2gt variant 15k miles
they are great cars.
and better performance than 997
but did not make my top 10 list and I am out of parking spaces
then again, I am buying crap long hoods and 914/6
YMMV
you know it
and the 964RS is the real deal
u need a 993RS back again
haha, I have more than one of each 991.1gt3/rs 991.2gt3/rs/t. if you add up all the 991.1gt variant out 25k miles, 991.2gt variant 15k miles
they are great cars.
and better performance than 997
but did not make my top 10 list and I am out of parking spaces
then again, I am buying crap long hoods and 914/6
YMMV
This ?
I own both. Touring the best daily on the planet. 997 RS feels special like the 964 RS on steroids. Have to have both. Add in a 964 RS and an early hot rod and you check all Porsche boxes. These Cars are soo good and each a wonderful personality that bounces off each other.
I own both. Touring the best daily on the planet. 997 RS feels special like the 964 RS on steroids. Have to have both. Add in a 964 RS and an early hot rod and you check all Porsche boxes. These Cars are soo good and each a wonderful personality that bounces off each other.
and the 964RS is the real deal
u need a 993RS back again
06-12-2019, 01:40 AM
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But after having gone from a 997 4.0 to a well build hot rod 964, I’d only go back to a 964, because the G50 box is so much nicer to drive and the car is nice and small, light and nimble. Slower laptimes, but same fun if you want to go much slower in a 997 out of warranty, might as well go 964.
997 trans are such POS.
each shift is a challenge
and that clutch... as you know, I just blew mine $7K
BUT I am into S&M. I need the pain
991 is not a dominatrix. she's good, but after first climax, I fall asleep.
997, if I fall asleep she whips me until I get it up again...
The 991RS doesn’t need to be rotated like that. PDK avoids having to spend LED / gearbox / clutch costs.
The new RS has the e-diff and RWS. I don’t feel RWS, but because the massive front grip (Even much more so in the 991.2RS where they really perfected the e-diff, RWS) the car doesn’t need to be trail brakes as much. The electric steering is very precise and gives just enough feedback for the new systems to be able to do what they do. The massive downforce also makes for crazy Gforces and there’s a lot of fun in that also.
The new RS has the e-diff and RWS. I don’t feel RWS, but because the massive front grip (Even much more so in the 991.2RS where they really perfected the e-diff, RWS) the car doesn’t need to be trail brakes as much. The electric steering is very precise and gives just enough feedback for the new systems to be able to do what they do. The massive downforce also makes for crazy Gforces and there’s a lot of fun in that also.
the tight stuff no longer need much correction or counter steer or trail... I think the RWS is doing its thing. very amazing.
06-12-2019, 05:53 AM
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06-12-2019, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
BUT I am into S&M. I need the pain
991 is not a dominatrix. she's good, but after first climax, I fall asleep.
991 is not a dominatrix. she's good, but after first climax, I fall asleep.
Mooty: so much more succinct and entertaining than any of my wordy and boring attempts. You are an RL poet.
06-12-2019, 11:35 AM
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06-12-2019, 03:09 PM
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Thanks for all the input; lots of differing opinions as expected but more interesting to understand everyone’s rationale. To this point, I have great respect for the 991.2 GT3 and the way Porsche has married a fantastic driving machine with practicality and day to day livability; however, it doesn’t feel quite like the scalpel it once was (996/997). Will have to test drive a 997.2 RS back to back with mine; hopefully, the decision will be clear that point. Someone also mentioned swapping out the exhaust- currently have the SW center bypass with the SOUL side bypasses coming- perhaps that will help swing the pendulum toward keeping the the 991.2.
06-12-2019, 03:49 PM
#45
Racer
Don't forget. 997 RS last of the best. If you want a car that will be relevant for ever that's the car.
If you want a wonderful car that will be less wonderful after the 992 GT comes out. Then 991 checks a temporary box.
Good luck on your decision. It's a great position to be in.
If you want a wonderful car that will be less wonderful after the 992 GT comes out. Then 991 checks a temporary box.
Good luck on your decision. It's a great position to be in.