Ample availability of .2 RS cars at MSRP... a myth!
#16
Bottom line is there cars out there if you are at the right place and right i me i guess.
But I’m a man of principle..but at the end for the very first time i paid over.,...and tried to get msrp and was promised msrp.
But i guess I’m the unlucky one.In the end i was tired of all. Bs from dealers.
But I’m a man of principle..but at the end for the very first time i paid over.,...and tried to get msrp and was promised msrp.
But i guess I’m the unlucky one.In the end i was tired of all. Bs from dealers.
#17
One could argue this is the false assertion.
#18
Apart from this banter I've always found it interesting that people "develop a relationship with a dealer" and then buy the next car "at MSRP" or "discount" but get absolutely poached on the cars they are continually trading in...its like perpetually paying an ADM...
#20
I get the OP's point. RL would have you believe it's easy to get GT cars w/o an ADM. It's not. I'm a buyer (see my sig.) and it's a fight to get these cars. Just is. As much as RL wants us to will away the ADM it's the current reality.
#21
Some people paid msrp. (The banter being referenced). Some paid adm (OP most likely if he has .2 3rs). I paid a hefty adm on my .1 3rs and no adm on my .2 3rs. So cars are out there at msrp for certain people and for some people not. I would have paid if need be an adm (10-25k for configurable slot)for the .2 3rs but it surely would have not been to “my” dealership.
Some questions
is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
Some questions
is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
#22
Some people paid msrp. (The banter being referenced). Some paid adm (OP most likely if he has .2 3rs). I paid a hefty adm on my .1 3rs and no adm on my .2 3rs. So cars are out there at msrp for certain people and for some people not. I would have paid if need be an adm (10-25k for configurable slot)for the .2 3rs but it surely would have not been to “my” dealership.
Some questions
is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
Some questions
is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
#24
I agree with OP. I had been looking for a 2RS for quite awhile. I was a serious buyer depending on the car. I never came close to MSRP from any seller. I was offered cars from $125-175k over MSRP including the dealer that I bought a new 2017 TTS, 2018 GT3 and 2019 GT3RS from. The availabiliy from my dealer was zero cars.(Beachwood Porsche). I love cars but wasn't going to pay that high an ADM. I did find a flip in Conn through a local connection that was 2 weeks old right after Christmas. The car MSRP was $342K with full body wrap. I bought it for $415k delivered to Michigan with the plastic still on the interior. I could live with that ADM and today it was 40 degrees outside. I took the car out and had a ball in it. It's like nothing else I've owned. This was the first time I drove it but I even enjoyed just looking at it in my garage. At first I put a car cover on it but took that off after a couple of days just so that I could stare at it. The cars that have sold on RL lately have all been in the 450-450 range if they have the WP with Mg wheels. Sometimes you just have to jump in and just do it or you'll wait forever looking for a bargain. The bargain cars just aren't that desirable and I looked at all of them I could find listed. They are usually non-WP, radio delete, sofa seats, or without Mg wheels. I did make about $15K over the MSRP on my GT3RS so I figure I got the perfect 2RS for me about $50K ADM. I feel like I hit the lotto and have the car I want and enjoying it now. Thats worth more to me than seeing a few extra 00's on an investment statement. "Life is short and there's no fun in the box".
#25
#26
Some people paid msrp. (The banter being referenced). Some paid adm (OP most likely if he has .2 3rs). I paid a hefty adm on my .1 3rs and no adm on my .2 3rs. So cars are out there at msrp for certain people and for some people not. I would have paid if need be an adm (10-25k for configurable slot)for the .2 3rs but it surely would have not been to “my” dealership.
Some questions
1. is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
2. Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
3. does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
4. i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
Some questions
1. is op upset about an adm he has to pay to get a car?
2. Did he get one at msrp and is upset other people are claiming they have as well?
3. does he not have a .2 3rs due to Adm?
4. i don’t understand what conclusion op is looking for from this thread for op to be content
Thanks for taking the time to comment but I feel you should have started with number 4.
4. Firstly, anyone looking for contentment on this platform needs to explore other avenues to nirvana. Secondly, your inability to understand the issue relates directly to your incorrect assumptions which more often than not are veiled as questions. I'll try to respond in the reverse numbered order.
3. Yes to .2 RS and its wonderful. NO to your assumption about me paying ADM... I never have, but have absolutely no issue with anyone paying it. I have an issue with dealers charging it on new cars... BUT ADM is not the issue or point to my post. The issue is quite simple, tstafford has put it succinctly and probably better than I did.
2. Yeah I'm really upset at others getting the car at MSRP... what a moronic question/assumption! I don't consider myself a GOLDEN BOY and unique. I and the group I'm involved with actively pass on MSRP allocations that we're offered to our members.
1. Read my response to #3...
#27
I just paid for my custom spec’d 3RS today (with adm) and I’m a tough customer, I love negotiating. Unless you spend millions at your local dealer per year and have for decades it’s Very very unlikely you’ll get a new specable allocation at msrp. Certainly in Southern California. If you get lucky and someone backed out of their deal, and it’s an undesirable spec, and aging on the lot maybe then you’ll get close to msrp.
as for myself I couldn’t be happier. I was able to custom order my car with exactly every option i wanted and not one I didn’t. That alone made the ADM worth it.
I also agree with both quotes below.
as for myself I couldn’t be happier. I was able to custom order my car with exactly every option i wanted and not one I didn’t. That alone made the ADM worth it.
I also agree with both quotes below.
I will say most people that sit around and wait for the best price on something do a lot of sitting and waiting....instead of driving....always has been and always will be....not saying people should overpay but the price is long forgotten after the miles rack up.....
Last edited by Dot23RS; 02-21-2019 at 11:27 PM.
#28
I passed on 2 gt3rs cars at msrp....one was greAt spec. Other was good except sofas. They did sell within 24
hours. No relationship w dealers.
btw. I did pass it along to two others and responded to several personal message, I believe if there’s a deal pass along the info
hours. No relationship w dealers.
btw. I did pass it along to two others and responded to several personal message, I believe if there’s a deal pass along the info
Last edited by osu s2k; 02-22-2019 at 09:46 AM.
#30
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