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I know a lot of people disagree with me, but there are also many that agree with me: Trofeo-R suck. Too finicky. Last 2 days. No faster than Cup2. If cup2 R are faster, give me 3 good track days, and cost a few hundred more, I'll be fan.
LOL. Saying Trofeo-R and Cup2 offer same lap time is comical. ......Why do you think Cup2R exists? Because it's their answer to the Trofeo.
They are no more "finicky" than Cup2. You may not like how they behave, but they behave more like "real" race tires do, and do like more camber because they are considerably faster and grippier. So for the guys who refuse to re-align their cars from stock (or run too low pressures), then yeah, they have more outer wear and complain about it on Trofeo-Rs. But that's user error.
We are getting great life out of them on all kinds of well driven, fast cars. M3's, GT4's, GT3's, etc. Hell, I got 20+ cycles out of a set on my heavy-azz M3, and that was driving very hard and sliding the car around being a hoon.
Maybe Cup2R lasts longer, who knows, but it won't last as long as standard CUP2, and will also likely require more aggressive alignments, otherwise people will be wondering why they have more outer edge wear. That's how grip works.
LOL. Saying Trofeo-R and Cup2 offer same lap time is comical. ......Why do you think Cup2R exists? Because it's their answer to the Trofeo.
They are no more "finicky" than Cup2. You may not like how they behave, but they behave more like "real" race tires do, and do like more camber because they are considerably faster and grippier. So for the guys who refuse to re-align their cars from stock (or run too low pressures), then yeah, they have more outer wear and complain about it on Trofeo-Rs. But that's user error.
We are getting great life out of them on all kinds of well driven, fast cars. M3's, GT4's, GT3's, etc. Hell, I got 20+ cycles out of a set on my heavy-azz M3, and that was driving very hard and sliding the car around being a hoon.
Maybe Cup2R lasts longer, who knows, but it won't last as long as standard CUP2, and will also likely require more aggressive alignments, otherwise people will be wondering why they have more outer edge wear. That's how grip works.
Like I said, many will disagree and have polarizing experiences, but I'm not the only one with experience that feels this way about trofeoR. I think few here will say that I don't know what I'm doing. I ran 2 sets of trofeoR on my .1 with -2.7/-2.4 alignment and hated the tires even though the wear was even. G meter showed no difference in grip and lap times were the same. I can't explain it and I don't discount your experience, but the tires don't work well for me and many others who know what they are doing
07-17-2018, 05:08 AM
