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If FAL fails on a GT3 991.2, does everything else still work?

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Old 05-16-2018, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Palting
I just checked on the 991.2 GT3 configurator. On the information for FAL, it says "Hydraulic function for raising the front axle......."

However, the manual talks about "compressed air", as well as "hissing sound", and in parenthesis (GT3 only). My GT3 does have a hissing sound when you lower the front axle.

It seems the configurator for the GT3 is wrong and gives rise to confusion, and that the 991.2 GT3 FAL is indeed pneumatic and not hydraulic.
Could be that cars built after a certain date will have the new system.
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Seems like this piece may have more issues than others. I’m debating on putting it on my RS allocation and I’ve read a few posts from rennlisters that have had theirs go out.

Im not worried about the issue if it happens immediately but if it goes out after warranty- down the road will this option be looked as upon as a “paper weight” to a track light weight focused car.


I’m also spending 18k for the Weissach Package to reduce weight by 13lbs or so. If one were to spec the FAL you’d be PAYING to add 15.4lbs back in.
Old 05-16-2018, 02:50 PM
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That is what I was referencing was the GT3 configurator which says hydraulic. The GT3RS says electro pneumatic or something.

I an still not sure how it works. Air gets pushed into the shock to raise it? Electric air compressor? Or is there some hydraulic accumulator that is filled with air and the hydraulic shock fluid raises the front?
Old 05-17-2018, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Buteo
Seems like this piece may have more issues than others. I’m debating on putting it on my RS allocation and I’ve read a few posts from rennlisters that have had theirs go out.

Im not worried about the issue if it happens immediately but if it goes out after warranty- down the road will this option be looked as upon as a “paper weight” to a track light weight focused car.


I’m also spending 18k for the Weissach Package to reduce weight by 13lbs or so. If one were to spec the FAL you’d be PAYING to add 15.4lbs back in.
My car was just at the dealer for the lift failure today. They said the failed component was actually part of the front strut, so a new one is on order. They also mentioned that they've had 3 or 4 other .2 GT3s come through for the same issue (failed seals in the strut that are part of the lift mechanism).

Not thrilled about needing a new strut at less than 200 miles, but it is what it is.
Old 05-17-2018, 06:41 AM
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The 991.2 GT3 (as the 991.2 GT3 RS) got the new electro-hydraulic FAL, this information has been confirmed by a technicien at the PEC in Le Mans
Old 05-17-2018, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chord72
The 991.2 GT3 (as the 991.2 GT3 RS) got the new electro-hydraulic FAL, this information has been confirmed by a technicien at the PEC in Le Mans
I dunno, man. My 991.2 GT3 delivered March hisses when it goes back down. Why would a hydraulic hiss?
Old 05-17-2018, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mech33
Not thrilled about needing a new strut at less than 200 miles, but it is what it is.
Well, maybe you'll end up with a free alignment that improves on the delivery alignment...
Old 05-17-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Palting
I dunno, man. My 991.2 GT3 delivered March hisses when it goes back down. Why would a hydraulic hiss?
Looking the PET, the 18's have a different pump (part number 991.341.263.97) The 991.1's had part numbers 991.341.263.90-991.341.263.96, just a different revisions.
diagram's look similar with all the same parts, just different part numbers. Once the PET for the GT3RS is out we will be able to see.

At this point, I suspect that maybe things are being lost in translation.
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Originally Posted by Buteo
I’m also spending 18k for the Weissach Package to reduce weight by 13lbs or so. If one were to spec the FAL you’d be PAYING to add 15.4lbs back in.
It's only half of that in the .2 RS, according to Porsche (they mentioned reducing FAL lift weight by 50%). But neither would matter - it's extra 2.5 gallons of gas for the old lift and half that for the new one - no one could feel or measure that difference.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Well, maybe you'll end up with a free alignment that improves on the delivery alignment...
Maybe, though I have no trust in dealer alignments...
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It costs more in the RS so maybe different or Porsche just feels they can charge more
Old 05-17-2018, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
It's only half of that in the .2 RS, according to Porsche (they mentioned reducing FAL lift weight by 50%). But neither would matter - it's extra 2.5 gallons of gas for the old lift and half that for the new one - no one could feel or measure that difference.
Nobody can feel or measure the difference of 15 lbs? Or even half that? Yet Porsche gear heads go nuts for things like a sticker instead of a real badge on the front hood and instead of interior door handles you get "lightweight" fabric door pulls?
Old 05-18-2018, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FourT6and2
Nobody can feel or measure the difference of 15 lbs? Or even half that? Yet Porsche gear heads go nuts for things like a sticker instead of a real badge on the front hood and instead of interior door handles you get "lightweight" fabric door pulls?
You can see the door pulls and stickers, and they look FAST. The placebo effect is strong with those things



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