AP on the GT3RS.2 and questions on suspension
03-07-2018, 11:37 AM
#16
Originally Posted by evilfij
AP folds his arms as soon as the engine is mentioned. Very defensive. Seems like he wanted more out of it, but the regs prevented it.
100 grams a side by removing under seat carpet. That’s a nice touch.
The suspension tweaks are the oldest trick in the book. If anyone drives their GT3RS on the street, I suspect we will hear complaints about the ride. Of course, I am plotting to swap the springs to the stiffer ones on my GT3 .... lol. Who says you can’t drive a cup car on the street ....
100 grams a side by removing under seat carpet. That’s a nice touch.
The suspension tweaks are the oldest trick in the book. If anyone drives their GT3RS on the street, I suspect we will hear complaints about the ride. Of course, I am plotting to swap the springs to the stiffer ones on my GT3 .... lol. Who says you can’t drive a cup car on the street ....
It seems that they squeezed every bit out of this platform, which makes me seriously wonder if this indeed going to be the last NA RS!
03-07-2018, 11:39 AM
#17
Originally Posted by Drifting
Glad the .2 RS will be stiffer. The .1 was too soft and comfortable a ride for an RS, IMHO.
Agree that my overall impression from AP words is that they’ve done all they can to maximize this platform. There are no more incremental gains to be had and they will need to do more than just change the air intake/exhaust and remove the carpet under the seats for the next all new 992 RS.
Either develop a CF monocell (which they won’t due just for RS), or radically change the engine to turbo and/or hybrid.
Agree that my overall impression from AP words is that they’ve done all they can to maximize this platform. There are no more incremental gains to be had and they will need to do more than just change the air intake/exhaust and remove the carpet under the seats for the next all new 992 RS.
Either develop a CF monocell (which they won’t due just for RS), or radically change the engine to turbo and/or hybrid.
03-07-2018, 11:46 AM
#18
Rennlist Member
Well- I think it's probably true both the GT3 and RS versions of this engine produce more power than spec'd and they could have pushed the ratings higher with no issue- but "folded arms", he was overruled so there is more to give on the next generation.
03-07-2018, 11:52 AM
#20
Drifting
Respect the focus of this edition proper way to close it out - it's like an aging athlete that retires before embarrassment.
03-07-2018, 11:56 AM
#21
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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So as far as we can tell, the only changes between the 991.2 GT3 engine and the 991.2 GT3RS engine are intake, exhaust and the tune.
I am not not sure I buy the “they are all underrated” re: engines or that the current engine will continue in 992, but time will tell.
I am not not sure I buy the “they are all underrated” re: engines or that the current engine will continue in 992, but time will tell.
03-07-2018, 12:21 PM
#22
Three Wheelin'
This is like how it used to be in 997. RS engine is basically the same as a GT3. Extra air in and out and a remap. It's great that you get the real deal in the regular GT3 again. No probs for me that the RS is not a 4.2 or other significant upgrade.
Re competition being 200hp ahead, they're not in the same space anymore due to price. They compete with 1RS.
Competition is R8, AMG and i know which is rather have.
Re competition being 200hp ahead, they're not in the same space anymore due to price. They compete with 1RS.
Competition is R8, AMG and i know which is rather have.
03-07-2018, 12:21 PM
#23
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by evilfij
So as far as we can tell, the only changes between the 991.2 GT3 engine and the 991.2 GT3RS engine are intake, exhaust and the tune.
I am not not sure I buy the “they are all underrated” re: engines or that the current engine will continue in 992, but time will tell.
I am not not sure I buy the “they are all underrated” re: engines or that the current engine will continue in 992, but time will tell.
03-07-2018, 12:25 PM
#24
Nordschleife Master
Another point I'd like to throw out there...and this is pure speculation on my part : I bet that the most significant improvement in lap times on the new car comes from the advancements in tire technology.
03-07-2018, 12:38 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
I agree. When I hear " this engine produces more power than it's rated for " without evidence is like one 5 year old telling another " my toy is better than yours because it's red ". There hasn't been any substantial proof that the engine power is underrated AFAIK. All the Dyno runs that have been posted here seem to be spot on.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...pd-manual.html
03-07-2018, 01:18 PM
#26
Typical AP,very knowledgeable but also a very good salesman. It might be my impression,but he also sounds like they've come to a point where there isn't much more to be said in terms of improvements on this platform.
Considering the take of the manual transmission in the GT3.2 is pretty good,Henry Catchpole missed the most important question of all : " why no manual ? "
Considering the take of the manual transmission in the GT3.2 is pretty good,Henry Catchpole missed the most important question of all : " why no manual ? "
03-07-2018, 01:31 PM
#27
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the big bang introducing the .2 solid lifters is already known
.2 RS is a GT3 plus aero and suspensions as usual
what he should say?
.2 RS is a GT3 plus aero and suspensions as usual
what he should say?
03-07-2018, 01:32 PM
#28
Race Director
Car should be awesome on the track!
03-07-2018, 01:45 PM
#29
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by Drifting
dunno. This suggests the torque is rather underrated on the .2 GT3.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...pd-manual.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...pd-manual.html
