According to Porsche's announcement of the .2GT3RS
02-28-2018, 04:35 PM
#61
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02-28-2018, 10:55 PM
#62
03-01-2018, 08:27 AM
#63
Drifting
Spoke to GM last night, no allocation info yet. He assured me I am getting a car, states that he spoke with Porsche directly and that "you will be taken care of"; I have had 3 GT cars in a row now ordered, so suspect this will likely be true and no reason to doubt what he told me...however when that occurs is anyone's guess. Hate to miss out on Mean Mr Green though.
03-01-2018, 08:34 AM
#64
Drifting
You guys are very cliquey. I feel like I’ve walked into an episode of "Happy Days" and told Richie, Potsie, Chachi, and Ralph that the Fonz has herpes. Everyone is beside themselves, and no one knows how to handle this information.
v070 status should mean nothing to an individual buyer; it does not get a buyer any closer to an allocation for a GT car. Some dealers utilize v070 order demands as a way to keep track of deposits and configurations. Many do not. Some dealers use a Word document, an Excel sheet or a pen and paper. There are an endless number of ways a dealer can keep track of their “list” until a real allocation is matched to a pending buyer. If a dealer decides not to utilize v070 order demands, it’s not because they have some nefarious, scheming plan to screw their clients.
Again, v070 is monitored by PCNA in aggregate, not individually when it comes to GT cars. When PCNA wants to request more GT product from Germany, they will add up the aggregate v070 orders as proof presented to Germany that PCNA should get additional GT production, rather than those allocations going to other areas of the world. When PCNA wants to make this argument, they will have the RM’s ask the individual dealers to put all their pending orders in v070 status. An aggregate tally is made, and that’s it. Sometimes they request this, other times not.
v070 is monitored differently with non-GT models; I already described that process in a prior post.
PCNA does not cross-check v070 GT orders to find buyers with multiple GT deposits across the country. The only time PCNA “cross-checked” buyers for multiple orders at different dealers was at the height of the Cayenne export problem. And that cross-check was done at v300, not v070.
When CJ refers to a simple formula and sales projections that are done in January, he is referring to the Annual Business Review that is done at the beginning of each year. It is an attempt to predict how many new Porsches a dealer could sell for a particular calendar year, month by month. Estimates for each category of car (911’s, 718’s, Macans, etc) are agreed upon by the dealer and PCNA. While you agree on the number of 911’s you could sell, it does not break it down by individual models within the 911 category. It has NOTHING to do with GT cars. Furthermore, it is not an agreement about promised allocations granted to the dealer. It is simply an agreement on what a dealer could sell IF they had the necessary allocations. As an example, a dealer could say, “December is our busiest month of the year… I think we could sell 22 911’s that month based on prior history. Will you ensure we have at least 22 911’s in our inventory in December to sell?” The regional manager will smile, and say, “You know I can’t promise that, but I’ll do my best.”
It does not guarantee GT allocations. It has NOTHING to do with GT allocations.
I’ll say it again, dealers do not know how many GT cars they will get before the allocations actually arrive. The percentage of what YOU could sell as agreed upon in your Annual Business Review is not the same as the percentage of what you will be allocated. Remember when dealers were shocked by the lack of 911R allocations? Or the flip side: remember when dealers where shocked at how many 991.1 GT3RS allocations they got? If you don’t believe this, simply go to your local dealer and ask them how many GT3RS’s they will be allocated next month. You’ll get crickets.
Some may find this boring. Some may find it interesting. Either way, it’s the truth.
v070 status should mean nothing to an individual buyer; it does not get a buyer any closer to an allocation for a GT car. Some dealers utilize v070 order demands as a way to keep track of deposits and configurations. Many do not. Some dealers use a Word document, an Excel sheet or a pen and paper. There are an endless number of ways a dealer can keep track of their “list” until a real allocation is matched to a pending buyer. If a dealer decides not to utilize v070 order demands, it’s not because they have some nefarious, scheming plan to screw their clients.
Again, v070 is monitored by PCNA in aggregate, not individually when it comes to GT cars. When PCNA wants to request more GT product from Germany, they will add up the aggregate v070 orders as proof presented to Germany that PCNA should get additional GT production, rather than those allocations going to other areas of the world. When PCNA wants to make this argument, they will have the RM’s ask the individual dealers to put all their pending orders in v070 status. An aggregate tally is made, and that’s it. Sometimes they request this, other times not.
v070 is monitored differently with non-GT models; I already described that process in a prior post.
PCNA does not cross-check v070 GT orders to find buyers with multiple GT deposits across the country. The only time PCNA “cross-checked” buyers for multiple orders at different dealers was at the height of the Cayenne export problem. And that cross-check was done at v300, not v070.
When CJ refers to a simple formula and sales projections that are done in January, he is referring to the Annual Business Review that is done at the beginning of each year. It is an attempt to predict how many new Porsches a dealer could sell for a particular calendar year, month by month. Estimates for each category of car (911’s, 718’s, Macans, etc) are agreed upon by the dealer and PCNA. While you agree on the number of 911’s you could sell, it does not break it down by individual models within the 911 category. It has NOTHING to do with GT cars. Furthermore, it is not an agreement about promised allocations granted to the dealer. It is simply an agreement on what a dealer could sell IF they had the necessary allocations. As an example, a dealer could say, “December is our busiest month of the year… I think we could sell 22 911’s that month based on prior history. Will you ensure we have at least 22 911’s in our inventory in December to sell?” The regional manager will smile, and say, “You know I can’t promise that, but I’ll do my best.”
It does not guarantee GT allocations. It has NOTHING to do with GT allocations.
I’ll say it again, dealers do not know how many GT cars they will get before the allocations actually arrive. The percentage of what YOU could sell as agreed upon in your Annual Business Review is not the same as the percentage of what you will be allocated. Remember when dealers were shocked by the lack of 911R allocations? Or the flip side: remember when dealers where shocked at how many 991.1 GT3RS allocations they got? If you don’t believe this, simply go to your local dealer and ask them how many GT3RS’s they will be allocated next month. You’ll get crickets.
Some may find this boring. Some may find it interesting. Either way, it’s the truth.
Last edited by nuvolari612; 03-01-2018 at 10:51 AM.