GT3 buying experience turned into a nightmare!!
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Wow, shocking story! No way to us your car for a press event. I suggest to write letter to Mr. Blume with your complains. He has a team who handles customer enquiries and this get noticed. The Germans have a nice name for it "Vorstandsbeschwerde", or in english "customer complain to board member". There is a defined process how Porsche handles this.
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I had to Wiki him but he looks like he comes from the ground up - a very good indication he has impeccable respect for Porsche branding
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Good point but I would point out that your term "lent" implies you were asked and agreed to this occurring. Not being asked evokes a very unhappy surprise. It may also be the case that you have a higher comfort level that arises from a high turnover of cars in your stable. My understanding of India car dealers (Ferrari is absent there) is that it is worse than The Wild West
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Originally Posted by AbsolutelyNobody
I'm kind of surprised how many people are OK with this... are you guys really saying you would be fine with buying a half million dollar car and then having it used as a launch/press/display car without even notifying you or asking for consent?
If it were my car I'd be pissed as hell, too... in fact where I live all the launch/display/press cars are usually sold off at a pretty large discount.
If it were my car I'd be pissed as hell, too... in fact where I live all the launch/display/press cars are usually sold off at a pretty large discount.
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That's what I don't get, the timeline seems to be: 1. He finds out about press event in September, 2. Press event takes place in October (Porsche India Owns the car at this point so can legally do what they want), 3. Later in October he takes delivery of the car (first time he has legal tittle), assuming after inspecting it given concern following press event, 4. Now Feb, he complains car used for press event. Honestly, Own the decision that you took delivery of the car and get on with life.
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
Lol it's not a half million dollar car....and the title of the thread is "nightmare experience ". This hardly qualifies as a nightmare. He said he got his car and is very happy months ago.
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I was told from the beginning that memory was NEVER an option in a GT3, I wasnt even looking for the option but I found out its NOT an option.
It looks like the car has 18 ways. But no memory. I would try to get the 10K back for the upcharge but yes, this is why the auto game is not the most scrupulous
place to play.
I hope you get a good result and I really wish Porsche would lead the way in ending these dealer games.
It looks like the car has 18 ways. But no memory. I would try to get the 10K back for the upcharge but yes, this is why the auto game is not the most scrupulous
place to play.
I hope you get a good result and I really wish Porsche would lead the way in ending these dealer games.
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I was told from the beginning that memory was NEVER an option in a GT3, I wasnt even looking for the option but I found out its NOT an option.
It looks like the car has 18 ways. But no memory. I would try to get the 10K back for the upcharge but yes, this is why the auto game is not the most scrupulous
place to play.
I hope you get a good result and I really wish Porsche would lead the way in ending these dealer games.
It looks like the car has 18 ways. But no memory. I would try to get the 10K back for the upcharge but yes, this is why the auto game is not the most scrupulous
place to play.
I hope you get a good result and I really wish Porsche would lead the way in ending these dealer games.
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I won't be ok with this.
I wouldn't want my car manhandled by some press release idiots, especially without my consent.
This is a type of thing that will **** me off occasionally when I think about it and I feel bad for OP b/c what's been done is done. Just write a letter of complaint and see if you can get some money out of it if that will make you feel better.
I wouldn't want my car manhandled by some press release idiots, especially without my consent.
This is a type of thing that will **** me off occasionally when I think about it and I feel bad for OP b/c what's been done is done. Just write a letter of complaint and see if you can get some money out of it if that will make you feel better.
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The dealer was himself kept in the dark for the longest time. I need to contact PAG directly.
Will do, now that I have some info on how to do it. Thanks!
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Great advice, Escalate this to Germany immediately
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Those photos make it look like people are crawling all over your car. I would NOT be comfortable with this.
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Those photos make it look like people are crawling all over your car. I would NOT be comfortable with this.
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That's what I don't get, the timeline seems to be: 1. He finds out about press event in September, 2. Press event takes place in October (Porsche India Owns the car at this point so can legally do what they want), 3. Later in October he takes delivery of the car (first time he has legal tittle), assuming after inspecting it given concern following press event, 4. Now Feb, he complains car used for press event. Honestly, Own the decision that you took delivery of the car and get on with life.
I wish it was as easy as that. It was the first time I waited for so long to get a car, from the day of deposit till delivery. On top of it all, the 70,000 USD was non-refundable according to the sale contract. To get the 70,000 back, I would've had to fight in Indian courts for maybe 10 odd years. There was also no way I would've got another brand new 991.2 GT3, after declining the purchase.
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All this it why I moved to the US. Everyone bends the rules, top level politician down to the policeman is corrupt. Same goes with people in the private sector. And having grown up in this part of the world I can't help but feel a sense of 'I don't want commoners touching my half a million dollar car' tone in OP's story.
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I wish it was as easy as that. It was the first time I waited for so long to get a car, from the day of deposit till delivery. On top of it all, the 70,000 USD was non-refundable according to the sale contract. To get the 70,000 back, I would've had to fight in Indian courts for maybe 10 odd years. There was also no way I would've got another brand new 991.2 GT3, after declining the purchase.
I wouldn't sweat it and certainly would not consider it to be a nightmare. Go and enjoy the car with your Dad and make some great memories.
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Newbie here, but I'm horrified by the OP's experience and astounded that so many seem to think he's overreacting.
Sure, his practical options for recourse are limited, and he may be better off keeping the car, but that doesn't change the fact that Porsche India's actions were egregious and ought to be addressed by PAG. I would be livid if dozens of press members were allowed to sit in my GT3 without my consent. The OP paid for a brand new car and deserved the pleasure of receiving it that way.
Sure, his practical options for recourse are limited, and he may be better off keeping the car, but that doesn't change the fact that Porsche India's actions were egregious and ought to be addressed by PAG. I would be livid if dozens of press members were allowed to sit in my GT3 without my consent. The OP paid for a brand new car and deserved the pleasure of receiving it that way.
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half mil for a GT3...wow