Are GT3s with ADM moving off dealer lots?
02-12-2018, 02:03 PM
#91
I am sure the touring model will be a great car but, for me at least, I want a “winged mobile”. Without the wing it is indistinguishable from the other 911 models. I also think from all the technical data discussed and written about that the wing will greatly improve downforce (20% greater ~342lbs at max speed) and handling.
Other magazine earlier claimed downforce difference was less, but who knows for sure...
02-12-2018, 03:20 PM
#92
Rennlist Member
According to Car and Driver this month, the difference in downforce at top speed is 221lbs. Wing GT3 has 331 lbs of downforce at top speed, while the GT3 Touring has 110 lbs at top speed. At 120mph, the wing GT3 has 132, while the GT3 Touring has 44 lbs. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-drive-review
Other magazine earlier claimed downforce difference was less, but who knows for sure...
Other magazine earlier claimed downforce difference was less, but who knows for sure...
Though, in the end as I have stated and will state I want a winged mobile but more precisely I want a wing on a car that was expressly designed for the wing to enhance performance. I have a 2018 718/Cayman S that I toyed with putting a Techart wing on but was concerned about the modifications impact on handling so I opted not to get it........
02-12-2018, 07:55 PM
#93
Rennlist Member
I wonder what the average amount over MSRP people are paying.....excluding the fortunate few who get the GT3 at MSRP.
02-12-2018, 09:47 PM
#95
Rennlist Member
Trying not to feel like a complete idiot for paying 25K over but I canvassed many dealerships and many have no allocations at all, and I received the 25K offer from 2 dealerships. When I told the dealership in California I found a dealership with the same deal 20 minutes from my home he did not even attempt to negotiate.......I guess the price of a GT3 therefore is + 15K to 50K.......Arlington Virginia was going at 50K when I checked several months ago.....I think I have developed PTSD, that is, I break out into a cold sweat when I hear either word Arlington or Virgina.
02-13-2018, 02:55 PM
#96
Instructor
I would think the avg is right around 25k ADM for cars that are actually moving. I know of both touring and wing versions that are available. They do sit a couple days though. It is like people need to go to a therapist to justify it before they pull the trigger.
02-13-2018, 05:25 PM
#97
Rennlist Member
No, it’s really not that bad except now I have a compulsion to lay down on any long black coach I see and anwser a little voice in my head that keeps repeating “What do you mean by that”......
02-21-2018, 02:39 PM
#98
Rennlist Member
I wonder if there are any new allocations being giving to dealers or if Porsche is saying what you see is what we have. On the other hand the .2RS could be everyone's focus and the ADMs will fall on the GT3s. Those of you on dealer's lists is there still hope?
The pre-owned inventory looks to be falling surprisingly, even the 200k cars.
Just looking for an update as to what everyone is seeing.
The pre-owned inventory looks to be falling surprisingly, even the 200k cars.
Just looking for an update as to what everyone is seeing.
02-21-2018, 02:52 PM
#99
Burning Brakes
don't think there is that much cross-shopping between GT3's and GT2RS. Totally different price points and character. I have been offered a GT2RS recently at the lowest premium I have heard of, and I said "No". I would rather get a 991.2 GT3RS.
As far as pricing is these days, I have noticed premiums firming up to minimum of asking $25K and settling for $20K on PDK cars. Manuals command higher premiums. Inventories online are shrinking by the day. Even some of them that are still online have been sold but the dealers have not taken them off. I am speaking from first hand knowledge of myself browsing and my friend calling the dealers trying to get one himself.
As far as pricing is these days, I have noticed premiums firming up to minimum of asking $25K and settling for $20K on PDK cars. Manuals command higher premiums. Inventories online are shrinking by the day. Even some of them that are still online have been sold but the dealers have not taken them off. I am speaking from first hand knowledge of myself browsing and my friend calling the dealers trying to get one himself.
02-21-2018, 03:03 PM
#100
I just bought a manual GT3 MSRP 175K in Southern CA for 20 over. The guys at Porsche Irvine are spectacular to work with. The car was precisely what I wanted and they even sent the car to my house in San Diego on a flatbed truck, no charge. The guys Porsche of San Diego told me that they walked away from a couple of offers at 25K over sticker.
02-21-2018, 03:17 PM
#101
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I wonder if there are any new allocations being giving to dealers or if Porsche is saying what you see is what we have. On the other hand the .2RS could be everyone's focus and the ADMs will fall on the GT3s. Those of you on dealer's lists is there still hope?
The pre-owned inventory looks to be falling surprisingly, even the 200k cars.
Just looking for an update as to what everyone is seeing.
The pre-owned inventory looks to be falling surprisingly, even the 200k cars.
Just looking for an update as to what everyone is seeing.
don't think there is that much cross-shopping between GT3's and GT2RS. Totally different price points and character. I have been offered a GT2RS recently at the lowest premium I have heard of, and I said "No". I would rather get a 991.2 GT3RS.
As far as pricing is these days, I have noticed premiums firming up to minimum of asking $25K and settling for $20K on PDK cars. Manuals command higher premiums. Inventories online are shrinking by the day. Even some of them that are still online have been sold but the dealers have not taken them off. I am speaking from first hand knowledge of myself browsing and my friend calling the dealers trying to get one himself.
As far as pricing is these days, I have noticed premiums firming up to minimum of asking $25K and settling for $20K on PDK cars. Manuals command higher premiums. Inventories online are shrinking by the day. Even some of them that are still online have been sold but the dealers have not taken them off. I am speaking from first hand knowledge of myself browsing and my friend calling the dealers trying to get one himself.
I just bought a manual GT3 MSRP 175K in Southern CA for 20 over. The guys at Porsche Irvine are spectacular to work with. The car was precisely what I wanted and they even sent the car to my house in San Diego on a flatbed truck, no charge. The guys Porsche of San Diego told me that they walked away from a couple of offers at 25K over sticker.
02-21-2018, 05:10 PM
#104
Race Director
Looks sick with the Black wheels. I went with Satin Aluminum on my Black which I really like but will paint White Gold in April. I just love the WG colored wheels on the GT2 RS
02-21-2018, 05:45 PM
#105
I just custom ordered a GT3 at MSRP from a dealership I'd only bought one car from a couple of months back. And a week ago I was offered a GT3 at MSRP from a dealership I'd never even done business with, I was just too late to the party and someone beat me to it. I didn't think there was any hope I was going to get one any time soon, but apparently it's not hopeless!