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Old 01-09-2018, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Avalon911
I tried to get a 2018 GT3 allocation, but was unsuccessful. I'm currently No 4 on the list at my dealer for the 992 GT3, so pretty good chance I'll get one of those.
how far away in time is that?
Old 01-09-2018, 01:41 PM
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I would say first US delivery of 992 GT3 is about 3 years away (992 C2S is 1 year away and the GT3 usually appears in the 3rd year). Probably a few months earlier in Europe.

But maybe Porsche will mix things up in order to have more GT3 capacity next round...
Old 01-09-2018, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I think MY1998 had both widebody 993 Carrera S and C4S (and maybe Turbo S) while they were building the first water-cooled 996 Carreras (996 started from MY1998 in RoW though only from 1999 in USA), etc...
While indeed the 993 C2S/C4S had a 98 MY, there was never a crossover in terms of production with the 996. The last of the aircooleds rolled off in Q1 98 and then production switched to the 996, I do not believe you had both a 993 and a 996 being produced concurrently even if for a short overlap time.
Old 01-09-2018, 03:18 PM
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[QUOTE=fuddman;14719346]I don't mean to sound argumentative here ; but, as far as I can tell, the "Model Year" is, simply, a period adopted by manufacturers a long time ago and retained by them as, more or less, a convention. IMO, they are under no obligation to follow a model year convention and there is nothing to prevent a manufacturer from dropping that convention if it suits their needs. I mentioned the 918 as one example where the "model year" convention seems to have been ignored.



If the dealer the OP talked to had said Porsche would stop making the cars on 12/31/'18, then that would have carried some weight; but, the dealer didn't. Instead, the dealer just made a comment about "model years." The OP seems to have extrapolated that comment into a production period. Which, as I've said, I think is a mistake.


The dealer actually quoted from an email or bulletin. It looks like it was copied as the font was totally different from their regular emails to me.

Anyway, I am sure this info is not privy to just one dealer, so maybe CJ can chime in and validate this info, but I absolutely believe my source.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
It's the law. In the United States an auto manufacturer is allowed to back up a model year designation to production that occurred as far back as January 1 of the prior year. So any car built in 2018 can be called a MY2019, if so desired. They cannot represent a car actually built in 2019 as a 2018 model year designation in the U.S.
This is bizarre. Any idea what the reasoning is? I mean... it seems they're allowed to artificially overstate the value by reducing the perceived age but not allowed to devalue it by making it appear older than it is. Who is this protecting?

I understand why there would be a regulation. Everyone wants the latest and greatest and I'm sure back in the day when everyone else was selling a 1985 but you could sell them a 1986 it would be a marketing advantage that would quickly get out of hand until everyone is selling the 2099 model. But why prevent using an older model year? I mean... if the model hasn't changed... why not call them all 2013's until you bring out the new one in 2020?
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
It's the law. In the United States an auto manufacturer is allowed to back up a model year designation to production that occurred as far back as January 1 of the prior year. So any car built in 2018 can be called a MY2019, if so desired. They cannot represent a car actually built in 2019 as a 2018 model year designation in the U.S.
Originally Posted by jo_ker
^^
and this. is for me absolute nonesense. as imperial units are...
+1

Hypothetically speaking if the cert regs, EPA, etc changed for the next MY they cannot do so.
Old 01-09-2018, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
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Hypothetically speaking if the cert regs, EPA, etc changed for the next MY they cannot do so.
Exactly. Governmental regs in the US go by model year. You can't fall backward and call a car a prior MY.
Old 01-09-2018, 07:38 PM
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I can confirm the same from my dealer whom I have bought my last three GT cars from. She cited an email received from PCNA that indicates there will not be a MY19 GT3. MY18 only.

- Chris.
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Originally Posted by Hams955
I can confirm the same from my dealer whom I have bought my last three GT cars from. She cited an email received from PCNA that indicates there will not be a MY19 GT3. MY18 only.

- Chris.
A gap isn't really unexpected going from the 991 to the 992, is it?
Old 01-09-2018, 08:43 PM
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Ok, if Porsche does stop building all GT cars at 12/31/18...what the hell are they going to sell in 2019? All non-GT 992 models? Their 2018 vs 2019 sales will TANK.
Old 01-09-2018, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Ok, if Porsche does stop building all GT cars at 12/31/18...what the hell are they going to sell in 2019? All non-GT 992 models? Their 2018 vs 2019 sales will TANK.
We don't know yet with regard to GT3RS. If it follows the launch path of the 91.2 GT3 it might be released as a MY19 model.
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.1 RS movie remake

18months 2017/2018 .2GT3 until 12/2018

then 2018/2019 .2RS, .2 3RS, Speedster, GT4, LE for next GTLM

and from E2019/2020 several base 992s

isn't already a too busy calendar?

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Old 01-09-2018, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Ok, if Porsche does stop building all GT cars at 12/31/18...what the hell are they going to sell in 2019? All non-GT 992 models? Their 2018 vs 2019 sales will TANK.
There is still the possibility of the rumored GT4(RS).
Old 01-09-2018, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Ok, if Porsche does stop building all GT cars at 12/31/18...what the hell are they going to sell in 2019? All non-GT 992 models? Their 2018 vs 2019 sales will TANK.
There are lots of people who just buy the “new” 911 when it comes out. After the novelty wears off it will be interesting.
Old 01-09-2018, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Ok, if Porsche does stop building all GT cars at 12/31/18...what the hell are they going to sell in 2019? All non-GT 992 models? Their 2018 vs 2019 sales will TANK.
I think they can still sell GT2RS. That is the biggest margin car for them too. There's a reason they're not limited


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