Was it undesirable? I remember it always being considered something of a unicorn and a little polarizing at the time.

according to the Rennlist experts, yes, the touring was undesirable and "not a real gt3." "Gt3 has a wing, a touring isn’t a real gt3." I even recall some debates regarding values. ‘Who would pay over msrp for a touring?” There weren’t many tourings from 2018-2019, and the funny thing is once it became a value proposition vs a gt3 that is able to be used under the radar, it then became desirable. Not because of what it was, but because the majority here want to buy things based on value. And because of this, there are more people wanting a 992 in touring form, as opposed to dismissing it as being not a real gt3 because it’s lacking a wing. When I bought mine in 2018, I bought it because of the driving experience, but wanting to "blend in" more around town, and personally, didn’t want the wing. There was no value speculation that guided me towards a touring, it was purely based on aesthetics.

Something else to consider: There was a late run of demand for the 991.2 Touring. So much so, in fact, that Porsche moved some of its 991.2 GT3 RS allocations to Touring allocations. This is why some 2019 Tourings (mine included) have 991.2 GT3 RS VIN numbers. So, I do think the demand grew pretty rapidly for the "Touring package," but by the time most caught wind of the option, it was too late.

I’m not sure but maybe others can confirm that all 2019 Tourings had RS vin numbers given to them. My January 2019 car also has an RS vin. According to the thread that shows the North America GT3 production numbers, 2019 production stopped in April. I believe once people saw the 991 Tourings retaining their value better than the winged cars buyers then decided to order 992 GT3 Tourings if they could get an allocation. There’s something special about the 991 Touring that is more than the sum of its parts. Not to mention there are way more 992’s where I live which leads me to believe that there were more made. Ive had my car for 4 years now have no plans of letting it go.

While this may be true I think it was largely driven by PAGs sudden reversal of stance on PTS. In early 2018 they denied a bunch of PTS builds that were previously "approved" much to the dismay of many customers. Sometime around may-July 2018 they approved those PTS slots and opened many more (I know I got one and changed from GT silver to PTS). I think this PTS surge delayed a bunch of builds as they had to fulfill so many PTS builds. My 2018 touring did not land stateside until January of 2019.

When the touring was an option many on Rennlist thought it was a silly "option" not a separate model just an option to "circumcise" the GT3, the general Rennlist consensus seemed negative. A smaller group of buyers like myself were interested in having a wolf in sheep's clothing. While I love the winged GT3 and RS it's not my style for the street. In fact I loved my 991.1 GTS so much that I swore the only way I would get rid of it is if on some off chance they would release a GT3 without a wing a la the R. Once they did I went through the requisite brain damage entailed to acquire an allocation. I'm so glad I did not have to go through the allocation process for the 992.1 as it did not appeal to me as much as the 991.2 mostly based on the more aggressive 992 aesthetics which is a completely personal choice. 992 is clearly the better performer objectively. I believe most people who chose the 991.2 touring did so for a more unassuming presence NOT for value as at that time it was generally considered a "silly" choice and in fact thought to likely be less desirable in the future.

Man-o-man I want a 991.2 touring!

GT325 - thanks for sharing your story. Mine is much the same (except I kept my 991.1 GTS). Yes, getting a GT3 allocation (not to mention a PTS Touring) was like a never-ending game of Porsche Twister. Who knew that Twister could be so mentally exhausting?! It was befitting of a reality TV show, quite frankly. The ups, the downs, the rejections, the false hope, the dashed false hope, and despite it all, I (we) scored the hot car in the end. :cheers:

Original owner 991.2 Touring owners are next level cool. The forsight you had while everyone was knocking it at the time is next level. I'm assuming you also have great taste in everything you do / buy. I haven't meant too many OG in person as you rarely see another one at events or randomly on the streets. It's a small club of owners.

It's interesting - I was really into the Touring as soon as it came out. The timing was wrong, so I never tried to get one at the time and I regretted it. If I'm not mistaken, I don't believe my local dealer ever sold one.

I've seen a couple of people on the FB group have an attitude about the Touring, which I thought was weird. Makes sense now.

For me it wasn't complicated - it's a pure and beautiful looking car and the thing I really love about the 991.2 Touring is that it was only available in a manual. There's just something cool about that. The fact they changed that for the 992 will be at least one thing that always makes the 991.2 version special.

I've also wondered about the number of 991.2 Tourings worldwide. A little less than 30% of 2016 911R production came to the US - if Tourings were at a similar ratio, then ~750 in North America would mean maybe 2500 worldwide?

When the Touring launched, I was instantly a fan of the understated looks, but with that in mind, I couldn't imagine who would prefer the chrome trim. Now that I have started to associate the 991.2 Touring with the notion of a "modern classic", I've gotten more open minded that the chrome trim makes it easier to evoke a long-hood retro vibe with a modern car.

Anyone know what Ryan was asking for this one? https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...ouring-c-1808/

that’s a cool car!

my 19 GT3T also had a RS vin...

From what others have said, the US Market got WAY MORE than usual due to a late launch. The numbers I've heard are between 1500 and 1800 worldwide production.

I'm surprised no one knows for sure.

Yes, 259 offline (via dm, privately) . I think it posted for more online for a brief moment. Wild price imho