View Poll Results: GT3 Touring Colour (Ordered or Delivered) Vote if locked in
Black/JetBlack
95
12.91%
White/Carrara White
67
9.10%
Guards Red
25
3.40%
Yellow
10
1.36%
Graphite Blue
37
5.03%
Rhodium
8
1.09%
Sapphire Blue
29
3.94%
Agate Grey
51
6.93%
GT Silver
113
15.35%
Carmine Red
25
3.40%
Chalk/ Crayon
63
8.56%
Lava Orange
5
0.68%
Miami Blue
23
3.13%
PTS - Bright Colour
33
4.48%
PTS - Dark Colour
46
6.25%
PTS - Classic Vintage
106
14.40%
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The OFFICIAL GT3 Touring owners pictures thread..
05-03-2019, 10:31 AM
#2806
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by ilovecarbs Still boggles me that Porsche calls the HID's "bi-xenon" when the high beams are halogen, making them NOT bi-xenon.
It seems that the term bi-xenons refers to HID bulbs using xenon gas and use them for both high and low beams. The confusion probably comes from cars described as having "xenon" headlights (without the "bi" prefix) typically use a halogen high beam along with the HID xenon low bulb.
Ever since the 997.2 all normal Carrera models have had bi-xenon headlights. GT3s in that time period had the option to get "lightweight" headlights were halogens, saving weight by not requiring the HID ballast mechanisms. Here is a description of bi-xenons as quoted from the Porsche Technics manual:
Main headlights
The Bi-Xenon headlights with a double-lens projection system are oval-shaped in typical Porsche style and are integrated elegantly into the new front. Even the basic models now feature Bi-Xenon lighting technology with gas-discharge lamps as standard.
Innovative lighting technology: Bi-Xenon
Bi-Xenon lamps produce light based on the gas-discharge principle. A spark discharge between two electrodes produces an “ionised gas tube” in the Xenon gasfilled lamp piston, through which electric current flows, which in turn causes the gas to light up. The longer service life of the Xenon system can be explained by the fact that the “arc” is less sensitive to mechanical loads than the bulbs used in halogen lamps.
Bi-Xenon headlights offer advantages both for dipped beam and high beam headlights.They produce an intensive bluish light with a high illuminating power, which
allows significantly better illumination of the road, particularly in bad weather conditions and in the dark.
The Bi-Xenon headlights with a double-lens projection system are oval-shaped in typical Porsche style and are integrated elegantly into the new front. Even the basic models now feature Bi-Xenon lighting technology with gas-discharge lamps as standard.
Innovative lighting technology: Bi-Xenon
Bi-Xenon lamps produce light based on the gas-discharge principle. A spark discharge between two electrodes produces an “ionised gas tube” in the Xenon gasfilled lamp piston, through which electric current flows, which in turn causes the gas to light up. The longer service life of the Xenon system can be explained by the fact that the “arc” is less sensitive to mechanical loads than the bulbs used in halogen lamps.
Bi-Xenon headlights offer advantages both for dipped beam and high beam headlights.They produce an intensive bluish light with a high illuminating power, which
allows significantly better illumination of the road, particularly in bad weather conditions and in the dark.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/b...led-26530.html
05-03-2019, 10:51 AM
#2807
Advanced
Pic from today's drive up the Pacific Coast Highway — "Kills bugs fast" indeed 
Random question: Does anyone wish they'd gotten Bi-Xenons instead of LEDs, or vice versa? I sorta wish I'd gone stock or PDLS to get the more traditional look (the LEDs look... interesting), but I do love the performance of the LEDs at night. I wish they'd implemented the LED lights with a more traditional, one bulb look though. Maybe one day someone will figure out how to swap 'em.
Random question: Does anyone wish they'd gotten Bi-Xenons instead of LEDs, or vice versa? I sorta wish I'd gone stock or PDLS to get the more traditional look (the LEDs look... interesting), but I do love the performance of the LEDs at night. I wish they'd implemented the LED lights with a more traditional, one bulb look though. Maybe one day someone will figure out how to swap 'em.
I had the regular PDLS ('4 stars'), non-black, on 991.2 C4S cab and they had no flaw driving in any dark and inclement conditions of the Northeast U.S. To the point that I could not imagine how the PDLS Plus could be any better than these. In other words, you will be beyond satisfied with the performance versus the two. This isn't the case in Mercedes for example, where the Full Intelligent LED, their best headlights are clearly superior to the one below it. Porsche's higher standards come into play here for sure.
Therefore when it comes to headlights, at least in the 991's, comparing the PDLS regular versus PDLS Pluses, it would come down to looks virtually 99%. This takes into account current US regulations which restrict the enhanced potential of the PDLS Pluses. If you are elsewhere, then perhaps the PDLS Plus might make a difference, but like I said in Porsche's performance wise, the regular PDLS's are so good that what you get for that extra money is practically just for looks.
IMHO
05-03-2019, 11:38 AM
#2808
Rennlist Member
Pic from today's drive up the Pacific Coast Highway — "Kills bugs fast" indeed
Random question: Does anyone wish they'd gotten Bi-Xenons instead of LEDs, or vice versa? I sorta wish I'd gone stock or PDLS to get the more traditional look (the LEDs look... interesting), but I do love the performance of the LEDs at night. I wish they'd implemented the LED lights with a more traditional, one bulb look though. Maybe one day someone will figure out how to swap 'em.
Random question: Does anyone wish they'd gotten Bi-Xenons instead of LEDs, or vice versa? I sorta wish I'd gone stock or PDLS to get the more traditional look (the LEDs look... interesting), but I do love the performance of the LEDs at night. I wish they'd implemented the LED lights with a more traditional, one bulb look though. Maybe one day someone will figure out how to swap 'em.
Although I have a C2, the base car, one of your members asked me to post my thoughts. Now I'll go back to where I belong, lol.
05-03-2019, 05:37 PM
#2810
The salesperson was given me all the you need LEDs otherwise your car will be dated in no time etc.I am happy I went for standard headlights on mine. Suits much better the classic look imo
05-03-2019, 09:14 PM
#2813
05-04-2019, 02:30 AM
#2816
Advanced
I kind of winced at the price and look of the LED's but got sucked in by the same "keeping up with technology" sell. At best I paid extra for lights that work a bit better and don't look nearly as cool as the single housings.
At worst they gradually engender the gravitas of a 996ish deformity
At worst they gradually engender the gravitas of a 996ish deformity
05-04-2019, 04:42 AM
#2817
I got LEDs with PDLS in my Touring as well.
I liked the Xenons better and in Germany you can order the Xenons with PDLS back in the day. It was around 800 eur and LEDs were around 2000 eur.
I got a GTS with LED for a weekend to check the night performance. LEDs are much stronger hence I decided to get them. In autobahn even in nights, I drive over 200km/h regulary hence it was a feature for me.
In our underconcious we generally tend to personalize cars and think they have faces. Xenons seems more like an eye. LEDs look like it has 2 sets of eye or reading glasses.
I liked the Xenons better and in Germany you can order the Xenons with PDLS back in the day. It was around 800 eur and LEDs were around 2000 eur.
I got a GTS with LED for a weekend to check the night performance. LEDs are much stronger hence I decided to get them. In autobahn even in nights, I drive over 200km/h regulary hence it was a feature for me.
In our underconcious we generally tend to personalize cars and think they have faces. Xenons seems more like an eye. LEDs look like it has 2 sets of eye or reading glasses.
