New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
03-12-2019, 10:13 PM
#4126
I would have bought it at list but they said no thank you- a 19 at 180 list silver with manual in New Jersey. These are same people that think a used 18 is worth 15k over.
I understand the profit motive but whole thing pisses me off. Got my RS at list in Colorado.
Was told by salesperson on non recorded line- ie his cell- they can not advertise it with ADM per PCNA.
I understand the profit motive but whole thing pisses me off. Got my RS at list in Colorado.
Was told by salesperson on non recorded line- ie his cell- they can not advertise it with ADM per PCNA.
03-13-2019, 02:43 AM
#4128
03-13-2019, 01:36 PM
#4130
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Urggg, someone needs to repeal those dealer franchisee laws.
03-13-2019, 02:53 PM
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03-13-2019, 03:12 PM
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Right. There should be a Rennlist "Bill of Rights" addendum, beginning with: (1) dealers are not allowed to maximize profits on GT cars which the GT forum guys have interest in. And (2) cars can only be sold at market prices if the market benefits the buyer, not the seller. This last addendum (2) is not in effect if the seller is a Rennlist GT forum guy selling his car in the classifieds or calling dealers for bids.
03-13-2019, 03:17 PM
#4134
Right. There should be a Rennlist "Bill of Rights" addendum, beginning with: (1) dealers are not allowed to maximize profits on GT cars which the GT forum guys have interest in. And (2) cars can only be sold at market prices if the market benefits the buyer, not the seller. This last addendum (2) is not in effect if the seller is a Rennlist GT forum guy selling his car in the classifieds or calling dealers for bids.
03-13-2019, 03:23 PM
#4135
Right. There should be a Rennlist "Bill of Rights" addendum, beginning with: (1) dealers are not allowed to maximize profits on GT cars which the GT forum guys have interest in. And (2) cars can only be sold at market prices if the market benefits the buyer, not the seller. This last addendum (2) is not in effect if the seller is a Rennlist GT forum guy selling his car in the classifieds or calling dealers for bids.
They know, we know, Porsche knows...
03-13-2019, 03:23 PM
#4136
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I don't have a problem if dealers want to sell their GT allocations for over MSRP, if they can then more power to them. The bigger problem that I have is dealers hoarding allocations, spec'ing the cars themselves, and basically acting as flippers. How about a novel concept of selling the allocations (at MSRP or above) to good/local customers? It's just annoying when the dealers try to create this false sense of scarcity. Thank goodness we have a few folks on here that provide us real data on how many cars have been built. There's a difference between doing business the right way and doing business the wrong way.
03-13-2019, 03:42 PM
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03-13-2019, 04:29 PM
#4138
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I don't have a problem if dealers want to sell their GT allocations for over MSRP, if they can then more power to them. The bigger problem that I have is dealers hoarding allocations, spec'ing the cars themselves, and basically acting as flippers. How about a novel concept of selling the allocations (at MSRP or above) to good/local customers? It's just annoying when the dealers try to create this false sense of scarcity. Thank goodness we have a few folks on here that provide us real data on how many cars have been built. There's a difference between doing business the right way and doing business the wrong way.
I do the same thing in Real estate. When times get good for building houses, I start building more spec homes because it is easier not dealing with a customer and I can charge market rate at the end rather than selling it a year earlier to only find out my costs went up. These dealers are doing similar. They feel like they can get market price when it shows up and don't have to deal with a buyer calling them every week wondering if the car is V200 or V300, etc. Don't blame them. I wouldn't let anyone order if I was the owner. Of course, this idea changes when sales get tougher....
03-13-2019, 04:35 PM
#4139
This is funny. Socialist thinking. Anti-Capitalist. No thanks. Maybe CA is rubbing off on you? I do the same thing in Real estate. When times get good for building houses, I start building more spec homes because it is easier not dealing with a customer and I can charge market rate at the end rather than selling it a year earlier to only find out my costs went up. These dealers are doing similar. They feel like they can get market price when it shows up and don't have to deal with a buyer calling them every week wondering if the car is V200 or V300, etc. Don't blame them. I wouldn't let anyone order if I was the owner. Of course, this idea changes when sales get tougher....
I do the same thing in Real estate. When times get good for building houses, I start building more spec homes because it is easier not dealing with a customer and I can charge market rate at the end rather than selling it a year earlier to only find out my costs went up. These dealers are doing similar. They feel like they can get market price when it shows up and don't have to deal with a buyer calling them every week wondering if the car is V200 or V300, etc. Don't blame them. I wouldn't let anyone order if I was the owner. Of course, this idea changes when sales get tougher....
03-13-2019, 04:49 PM
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No they don’t.
However, dealers know it is highly unlikely they would get additional GT allocations if they don’t have buyers for their current allocations. Despite some of the claims in this forum, dealers do not order GT cars for existing clients without their knowledge. Porsche often sends gifts and correspondences to GT buyers beforehand so the last thing a dealer would want is a gift sent to an unsuspecting client who then demands the car.
However, dealers know it is highly unlikely they would get additional GT allocations if they don’t have buyers for their current allocations. Despite some of the claims in this forum, dealers do not order GT cars for existing clients without their knowledge. Porsche often sends gifts and correspondences to GT buyers beforehand so the last thing a dealer would want is a gift sent to an unsuspecting client who then demands the car.