3 Questions before my GT3 delivery next week?
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FWIW, good bump shops can duplicate the factory paint without any variance. To do a front bump area would cost around $1300 and very few if any could tell it was done.
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Good news is that my shipping vessel (Adriatic Highway) should be docking Houston tomorrow. Expecting the car delivered to me next week. I have three questions.
1) Opinions and feedback on the Xpel stealth film on the whole car (Black body + matte black wheels / red lips)?
2) Should I get the exterior prepped from a professional detailing shop vs the dealer? I am thinking of asking the dealer to not even take off the protective plastic film.
3) Is it a good idea to buy the extended warranty? I never bought one on my base 911, eleven years ago. Never had any issues.
Anything else I should consider?
1) Opinions and feedback on the Xpel stealth film on the whole car (Black body + matte black wheels / red lips)?
2) Should I get the exterior prepped from a professional detailing shop vs the dealer? I am thinking of asking the dealer to not even take off the protective plastic film.
3) Is it a good idea to buy the extended warranty? I never bought one on my base 911, eleven years ago. Never had any issues.
Anything else I should consider?
2. PLEASE refrain from letting dealer do any washing or prep...most aren't qualified to wash the cars, let a lone detail them. With newer porsche paints being softer, you already have some issues to deal with from factory, no need for more.
3. If you plan on keeping the car for more than 3 years, good investment
My opinion only if youre going to keep the car get some protection. However, if like most less than two years total waste because most of these cars are well cared for so trading in short period zero return. Ive seen so many resales with less than 4000 miles and the car is flawless. My Spyder had full front wrap two car covers and two sets of mats, and I was the receiver of a perfect car.
To each his own...these are too nice of cars to just drive around and let them get beat up by rock chips, careless other drivers, swirls and scratches, etc.
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Originally Posted by Nick
$1400 for all that? That is less than half what most charge for that amount of work.
FWIW, good bump shops can duplicate the factory paint without any variance. To do a front bump area would cost around $1300 and very few if any could tell it was done.
FWIW, good bump shops can duplicate the factory paint without any variance. To do a front bump area would cost around $1300 and very few if any could tell it was done.
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Our Moderate level, includes full hood, full fenders, front bumper, headlights, foglights, and rear bumper edge is the minimum most our clients do. It provides excellent coverage of the most impacted areas...next level up would include a-pillars, the two black strips on the roof, and full rockers coming up on the sides to replace the factory stone guards,
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I am wrapping the entire car, it is a must for me, Xpel Ultimate. Just as important choose the shop wisely, Moe is one of the top shops for this task. His prices are not cheap, but his work reflects high end skill, his comments are wise and on point. I am in Southern Nevada and loyal to a NY shop, Detailing dynamics, Eddie and Matt. I feel they are the best in the Country. The level of high skilled work is so important to me that I ship my cars X Country to get it right.
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Yeah, that's just not true. As long as the work is done properly and there wasn't any accident damage, it's a non-issue. Parroted Internet nonsense. Just like the oft repeated claim 'you'll never match the paint', which is also total nonsense.
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Disagree. Every trade of high end cars, dealer walks around car with a paint meter. They know what was resprayed and calculate against the trade. People spending 150K on a pre owned car do not want a respray. Also non metallics cannot be as easily matched as a metallic paint, thats a fact. Just don’t get how people spend 200K on a car and then refuse to protect it. Years ago the clear bra was yellowing and seams all over. Todays Xpel and suntek are almost impossible to detect if the job is done correctly. Penny wise pound foolish sums it up.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Yeah, that's just not true. As long as the work is done properly and there wasn't any accident damage, it's a non-issue. Parroted Internet nonsense. Just like the oft repeated claim 'you'll never match the paint', which is also total nonsense.
1. Would you have bought your used spyder recently if it had been resprayed?
2. Would you have bought it at the same price as another identical one which was pristine?
3. Lastly, if one had rock chips, and one didn’t.. would you choose the one with rock chips at same price or the one with perfect paint?
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Since the thread is titled 3 Questions, let€™s put this in context of that beautiful used Spyder you just purchased:
1. Would you have bought your used spyder recently if it had been resprayed?
2. Would you have bought it at the same price as another identical one which was pristine?
3. Lastly, if one had rock chips, and one didn€™t.. would you choose the one with rock chips at same price or the one with perfect paint?
1. Would you have bought your used spyder recently if it had been resprayed?
2. Would you have bought it at the same price as another identical one which was pristine?
3. Lastly, if one had rock chips, and one didn€™t.. would you choose the one with rock chips at same price or the one with perfect paint?
BTW, have you ever seen a wrap that has a nick or several of them? Just dreadful.
Look the car is designed to be driven. If you're going to freak or stress out over every pebble hitting the undercarriage or front, these cars are not for you. That said, if you're keeping the car for several years and like the feel of washing and waxing over plastic then a wrap may be the way to go.
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I drive my 2015 GT3 nearly every day. I have 15800 miles on it with a full clear wrap on the front clip. To this day, the front end is near perfect. It would have been trashed and road blasted had I not had this on the car.
To your disposition...why even wash a car???
And you're correct...people are concerned with accident damage more than anything when attempting to sell the car. So if the front end was all peppered up, it's acceptable? If one has the entire front end repaired and painted, then try to tell a potential buyer that they only refinished the front clip due to road rash, nearly half the potential buyers nowadays believe that there was likely an even greater need to repair/refinish the car than what most sellers admit to. In other words, they actually believe that there was a minor or moderate accident which created a need to repair vs. a discretionary move.
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Not true at all...and I'm the owner of one of the highest end collision centers in Michigan. We refinish cars of this caliber daily. If you think stripping a hood, bumper, fenders, and a-pillars, fixing all the road rash, epoxy priming everything, priming, painting, clear coating, wet sanding and polishing the finish, then reinstalling everything is cheaper than $1500, you're way off.
I drive my 2015 GT3 nearly every day. I have 15800 miles on it with a full clear wrap on the front clip. To this day, the front end is near perfect. It would have been trashed and road blasted had I not had this on the car.
To your disposition...why even wash a car???
And you're correct...people are concerned with accident damage more than anything when attempting to sell the car. So if the front end was all peppered up, it's acceptable? If one has the entire front end repaired and painted, then try to tell a potential buyer that they only refinished the front clip due to road rash, nearly half the potential buyers nowadays believe that there was likely an even greater need to repair/refinish the car than what most sellers admit to. In other words, they actually believe that there was a minor or moderate accident which created a need to repair vs. a discretionary move.
I drive my 2015 GT3 nearly every day. I have 15800 miles on it with a full clear wrap on the front clip. To this day, the front end is near perfect. It would have been trashed and road blasted had I not had this on the car.
To your disposition...why even wash a car???
And you're correct...people are concerned with accident damage more than anything when attempting to sell the car. So if the front end was all peppered up, it's acceptable? If one has the entire front end repaired and painted, then try to tell a potential buyer that they only refinished the front clip due to road rash, nearly half the potential buyers nowadays believe that there was likely an even greater need to repair/refinish the car than what most sellers admit to. In other words, they actually believe that there was a minor or moderate accident which created a need to repair vs. a discretionary move.
With film technology so advanced now days, the aesthetics argument is getting tougher to justify.
But, we must understand...what's right for one person, doesn't mean it's the best option for another. That's why we still have some clients, getting fewer and fewer, that prefer not to clear bra their cars.
Bottom line, when time for resale, a pristine car with clear bra protection WILL likely fetch more than one without clear bra that has stone chips, or one that has no clear bra, but has a repaint. That's just a fact. Most 2nd-owner buyers, don't want to buy a blemished Porsche when they know another one that's well-cared for can be had for an incremental increase in cost.
But personal CHOICE doesn't mean it's always the PRUDENT choice...we must respect one's choice to simply drive a car and enjoy it for what it is, even if flaws come with that experience...life's too short to fret...but we must also not avoid the facts that when prevention is possible, it IS the right choice for someone who wants to pamper and care for their exotic car in a manner that enhances his/her ownership experience.
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+1...on point all around. Porsche owners are known to be OCD in the automotive industry. We think that's a great thing.
With film technology so advanced now days, the aesthetics argument is getting tougher to justify.
But, we must understand...what's right for one person, doesn't mean it's the best option for another. That's why we still have some clients, getting fewer and fewer, that prefer not to clear bra their cars.
Bottom line, when time for resale, a pristine car with clear bra protection WILL likely fetch more than one without clear bra that has stone chips, or one that has no clear bra, but has a repaint. That's just a fact. Most 2nd-owner buyers, don't want to buy a blemished Porsche when they know another one that's well-cared for can be had for an incremental increase in cost.
But personal CHOICE doesn't mean it's always the PRUDENT choice...we must respect one's choice to simply drive a car and enjoy it for what it is, even if flaws come with that experience...life's too short to fret...but we must also not avoid the facts that when prevention is possible, it IS the right choice for someone who wants to pamper and care for their exotic car in a manner that enhances his/her ownership experience.
With film technology so advanced now days, the aesthetics argument is getting tougher to justify.
But, we must understand...what's right for one person, doesn't mean it's the best option for another. That's why we still have some clients, getting fewer and fewer, that prefer not to clear bra their cars.
Bottom line, when time for resale, a pristine car with clear bra protection WILL likely fetch more than one without clear bra that has stone chips, or one that has no clear bra, but has a repaint. That's just a fact. Most 2nd-owner buyers, don't want to buy a blemished Porsche when they know another one that's well-cared for can be had for an incremental increase in cost.
But personal CHOICE doesn't mean it's always the PRUDENT choice...we must respect one's choice to simply drive a car and enjoy it for what it is, even if flaws come with that experience...life's too short to fret...but we must also not avoid the facts that when prevention is possible, it IS the right choice for someone who wants to pamper and care for their exotic car in a manner that enhances his/her ownership experience.
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Good news is that my shipping vessel (Adriatic Highway) should be docking Houston tomorrow. Expecting the car delivered to me next week. I have three questions.
1) Opinions and feedback on the Xpel stealth film on the whole car (Black body + matte black wheels / red lips)?
2) Should I get the exterior prepped from a professional detailing shop vs the dealer? I am thinking of asking the dealer to not even take off the protective plastic film.
3) Is it a good idea to buy the extended warranty? I never bought one on my base 911, eleven years ago. Never had any issues.
Anything else I should consider?
1) Opinions and feedback on the Xpel stealth film on the whole car (Black body + matte black wheels / red lips)?
2) Should I get the exterior prepped from a professional detailing shop vs the dealer? I am thinking of asking the dealer to not even take off the protective plastic film.
3) Is it a good idea to buy the extended warranty? I never bought one on my base 911, eleven years ago. Never had any issues.
Anything else I should consider?