Palting

I'm just trying to wade through all the rumors flying around.

I know Porsche usually has a 3 year production run on new iterations of their models. Based on this, the GT3.2 should run from 2018 through 2020. Here and there I see mention of this being a limited run only as a 2018, a mention of running as long as there is a demand, etc, etc,etc.

So, anyone have anything firm on how long GT3.2 production will run?

Thanks!!

neurotic

from what some good resources indicated on RL--end of production will be December 2018

GrantG

GT3 production is typically 2 model years each for .1 and .2 of a generation. The last GT3 was 3 years, because of the stop-sale due to engine issues. I would expect Model Years 2018 and 2019 (MY2019 starting in Summer 2018 and possibly ending by 2019 if rumor above is correct).

Dr.Bill

Should be model year 2018 and 2019 cars.
At least there have always been two model years. Except with the 991 - when they started bursting into flames, that threw a monkey wrench into the system and we ended up with a handful of 2016 cars.

kfmcmahon

how many years for RS in each generation (.1 and .2 for 997 and 991)?

GTEE3

^ two years each for 997, only one MY for 991.1

Z356

Keep the eye on the ball. The 'ball', in this case, is the Euro 6
emissions certification for the N/A .2 991 gt3 & .2 991 gt3 RS
that might not be extended beyond Dec 31, 2018. So in this
case, the limited run of the models in question will not be
determined by customer demand, marketing strategy or
prior historic practice at PAG. Rather it will be due to
restrictive government regulations relating to emissions.

A few here at Rennlist have stated that PAG might decide
to keep producing N/A gt3 & RS models to markets outside
the European Union (like the United States) that do not
abide by those same Cycle 6 emissions rules. I am not
privy as to what they will do for sure, but I know that PAG
is currently a very 'politically correct' organization! And
keeping production of gasoline engines that by then would
be 'non-complaint' & 'banned' in Europe might be risky for
them & their political/PR prospects. That will not please
the 'Green' political forces that have so much influence in
Germany & most of Europe. So although it might be technically
possible, I doubt we will see .2 991 gt3 & .2 991 gt3 RS
production beyond the date (e.g. 12/31/2018) that their
current Cycle 6 Emissions extension expires in the EU &
can not be renewed! My dos centavos, for what it's worth!

***
For the MY2016 .1 991 gt3 RS, it was one of
the longest Model Year in Porsche's history!
It was frankly like the 'Energizer Bunny'
...it just kept going & going!





Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail, CO

robmypro

Keep the eye on the ball. The 'ball', in this case, is the Euro 6
emissions certification for the N/A .2 991 gt3 & .2 991 gt3 RS
that might not be extended beyond Dec 31, 2018.

Eduardo, assuming it is not extended past 2018, how restrictive do things get for future GT cars?

alpine-al

US sales data for .1 GT3s as of Feb 2016 (from MJones):

Jan - Dec 2014: 1,084
Jan - Dec 2015: 822
Jan - Feb 2016: 42

.

Z356

I expect the next wave of Porsche future gt cars will have
forced induction (Turbo Charged). I assume we are seeing
the last of the N/A gt models once the Cycle 6 emissions
permits expire. If that set of assumptions holds true, future
Porsche gt models will still be faster...but power delivery will
be felt differently by the driver & passenger! Same as when
Porsche gt cars go to Hybrid, then full Electric, at some time
in the near horizon to meet increasingly restrictive emissions.

While we here at Rennlist have been excessively preoccupied
with gt3 allocations, PTS, Magic 8 *****, values up/down &
amused by mocking inexperienced newbies trying to get a gt3,
Europe has been moving closer to getting rid of all internal
combustion engines as early as 2040! That is less than 23
years from now! And I have not seen much discussion here
of what these recent announcements will mean to our hobby!

Britain to Ban New Diesel and Gas Cars by 2040

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/w...emissions.html

Saludos,
Eduardo
Currently in Vail Valley, CO

NateOZ

PAG has an app that solves the emission problems - the next gen of N/A cars will be cleaner than EVs!

Chris3963

Now that's funny...there's an app for that!

Chris3963

By 2040 I will be dead or in a wheel chair so not sure I care.

But seriously, it will accelerate the death of the internal combustion engine as car manufacturers start making the change sooner rather than later. You won't want to be last in this race.

GrantG

Good info, but don't forget that Model Years and Calendar years overlap quite a bit (from Summer, the next Model year begins...)

WernerE

Great post -- thanks. It connects the Emission * Model Year * Politics * dots gathered from other valued RL posters on the subject (Whoopsy, Chris3963, etc).

IF December 31, 2018 is the end-date for GT production of naturally aspirated engines, then availability will be more constrained that 991.1 models UNLESS Porsche ramps production above the 15-20 GT cars per day. Any hard facts on this GT-per-day production limitation?