Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

991 GT3 Concerned Owners Group

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-05-2017, 01:42 PM
  #196  
ChicagoWhale
Racer
 
ChicagoWhale's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Chicago, NYC, Zurich
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 65 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

When you say that you have "examples of cars," I'm curious how many examples you actually have.
ChicagoWhale is offline  
Old 05-05-2017, 02:51 PM
  #197  
alpine-al
Burning Brakes
 
alpine-al's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: MA
Posts: 757
Received 50 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhale
When you say that you have "examples of cars," I'm curious how many examples you actually have.
Here are several threads with relevant information:

Poll: Engine Misfire Issues

991 gt3 engine misfiring / letters

2015 GT3 misfire engine - help

Dundon Finger Follower Wear/Cam Wear

Engine Control Fault

Does F engine top end rebuild solve the problem?


.
alpine-al is offline  
Old 05-05-2017, 05:37 PM
  #198  
bronson7
Nordschleife Master
 
bronson7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 9,843
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Thank you for pulling all those threads together.
bronson7 is offline  
Old 05-05-2017, 06:47 PM
  #199  
d00d
Rennlist Member
 
d00d's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: 4MB, HYA
Posts: 1,692
Received 281 Likes on 184 Posts
Default

I went back through the `How many 15-16 gt3's have engine replaced?' thread to summarize;

Where to find engine number;
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post12357344

E00000: MY 2014 (GT3)
E1xxxx: E replacement engine with fixed rod bolts, added cold rev limiter
F00000: MY 2015 (GT3)
F03048: Revised heads, valve springs, camshafts, finger followers with updated DLC, updated ECU
G00000: MY 2016 (GT3, GT3 RS) additional oil sprayers, revised oil pump, filter neck, filter
xxxxxx: Service bulletin to replace ignition coils, spark plugs, and increase mid range oil pressure
G05374: (R, GT3 RS) DLC camshaft lobes, revised ignition coils, increased mid range oil pressure

There are three piston and two piston ring versions for the GT3, unknown at which serial numbers these changed.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13492343

jamie@dundonmotorsports.com;
The issue with the wearing of the finger followers isn't the DLC wearing, the DLC is likely not causing much of an issue circulating in the engine, the issue is the metal/metal wear between the cam and finger follower. Any metal that circulates through the engine creates abrasive wear. The amount of time for the ecu to signal a misfire fault due to valve opening deviation (finger follower wear) is likely long enough for the metal to be circulating for some time. The oil filter will only get a % of the metal circulating. So that means the metal circulating will get into all the areas the oil circulates through and issues may not show themselves for quite a while (think bearing wear causing spun rod bearings, scored cylinders, compression/leakdown issues etc...). The issue could show itself many years later, but typically once wear starts, it continues on it's own as the surface finish/oil holding capability is changed...

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13557102

Macca;
I heard a little more about the "failed" 991GT3 RS G engine last night. Delivered late August, Germany, 14,000 km, 8000km on track (approx 35 days) including a number of sessions this season at the Germany one make series. cEL light with scored finger rockers being replaced with the new DLC cams.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13645342

jamie@dundonmotorsports.com;
The issue has to do with the force that the lifter is pressing the finger follower against the cam lobe, and the lack of space left between the lobe and the follower for an oil film.

Last edited by d00d; 07-02-2017 at 02:36 PM.
d00d is offline  
Old 05-05-2017, 07:18 PM
  #200  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhale
When you say that you have "examples of cars," I'm curious how many examples you actually have.
The last count was around 35.
robmypro is offline  
Old 05-06-2017, 11:06 AM
  #201  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Update: Heading to the copier today. I decided to get this all printed in color, and on higher quality paper. So the packages will be printed today, and go out Monday morning. I felt the higher quality production was worth waiting an extra day or two.
robmypro is offline  
Old 05-06-2017, 04:32 PM
  #202  
bronson7
Nordschleife Master
 
bronson7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 9,843
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Rob, you think of it all. Well done.
bronson7 is offline  
Old 05-06-2017, 04:52 PM
  #203  
mcsmcs1
Burning Brakes
 
mcsmcs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,171
Received 55 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Thank you for all your work on this!
mcsmcs1 is offline  
Old 05-06-2017, 05:18 PM
  #204  
GT3 KSA
Three Wheelin'
 
GT3 KSA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,746
Received 176 Likes on 101 Posts
Default

thank you for all your efforts
GT3 KSA is offline  
Old 05-06-2017, 05:21 PM
  #205  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bronson7
Rob, you think of it all. Well done.
Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Thank you for all your work on this!
Originally Posted by GT3 KSA
thank you for all your efforts
Thanks guys. My pleasure.
robmypro is offline  
Old 05-07-2017, 02:17 AM
  #206  
john weires
Pro
 
john weires's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Estes Park, Colorado
Posts: 689
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Rob, your effort here is above and beyond the call. I hope for a good outcome for all 991.1 GT3 owners.
john weires is offline  
Old 05-07-2017, 11:27 AM
  #207  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by john weires
Rob, your effort here is above and beyond the call. I hope for a good outcome for all 991.1 GT3 owners.
Thanks John. Me too!
robmypro is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 11:11 AM
  #208  
911dev
Drifting
 
911dev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 2,650
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

much appreciated!
911dev is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 06:25 PM
  #209  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Quick Update Guys. All letters were mailed this morning. Now the waiting begins.

Also, I hadn't checked my inbox in a few days. How many people purchased these cars? LOL
robmypro is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 06:26 PM
  #210  
robmypro
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
robmypro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Colorado
Posts: 10,235
Received 1,784 Likes on 1,027 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 911dev
much appreciated!
robmypro is offline  


Quick Reply: 991 GT3 Concerned Owners Group



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:09 AM.