991 GT3 VALUES
#65
Rennlist Member
Keep in mind, prices typically drop between 5-10% during the winter months. It's a positive to see these auction numbers. This is wholesale, so the lowest prices at the worst time. Good numbers.
#66
Anyone wanna post Mannheim for RS?
#68
what about 997.2 RS prices?
#70
What do these prices actually reflect? The hammer price that a dealer paid for the car? What types of additional fees are paid beyond the listed price to get the gross transaction price?
If I'm understanding correctly, dealers aren't going to be selling RS cars at MSRP in the near future unless they are going to take a loss. Even the GT3s with 5 digit miles on them are being acquired for 10-15k under MSRP. Like meaning around MSRP list prices?
Forgive any ignorance. I'm not familiar with the auction side of the industry.
If I'm understanding correctly, dealers aren't going to be selling RS cars at MSRP in the near future unless they are going to take a loss. Even the GT3s with 5 digit miles on them are being acquired for 10-15k under MSRP. Like meaning around MSRP list prices?
Forgive any ignorance. I'm not familiar with the auction side of the industry.
#71
Burning Brakes
That's a high price for the UV last month.
#72
Three Wheelin'
What do these prices actually reflect? The hammer price that a dealer paid for the car? What types of additional fees are paid beyond the listed price to get the gross transaction price?
If I'm understanding correctly, dealers aren't going to be selling RS cars at MSRP in the near future unless they are going to take a loss. Even the GT3s with 5 digit miles on them are being acquired for 10-15k under MSRP. Like meaning around MSRP list prices?
Forgive any ignorance. I'm not familiar with the auction side of the industry.
If I'm understanding correctly, dealers aren't going to be selling RS cars at MSRP in the near future unless they are going to take a loss. Even the GT3s with 5 digit miles on them are being acquired for 10-15k under MSRP. Like meaning around MSRP list prices?
Forgive any ignorance. I'm not familiar with the auction side of the industry.
They are simply additional data points, can't read too much into it especially with results averaging only one every month (997 RS data is actually useless because so few have sold at mannheim recently and long time since some of transactions occured and they aren't even using the posted results to determine a average) but typically the wholesale side follows same graph trend that retail side does so if for example a couple big and noticeable drops in prices at auction then you will see the retail asking prices soften a bit (eventually I should add.....most dealers will take a while to trend down on retail pricing usually after car sits for a long time at store). Keep in mind that options, equipment and condition vary a lot between these cars so it's another factor to consider.
#73
Race Car
I saw some this morning on CarGurus asking low 130's. It will be interesting to see if they eventually dip below 997.2 GT3 prices which seem fairly stable at 110k-130k
#74
Rennlist Member
Does anyone think these will fall to the 110-120k range when the .2 manual drops?
A better question in my opinion is what the initial .2 GT3s with manuals do on the secondary market. Could they go wild like the 911R (to a much lesser extent) or follow the pattern of how the .1s did.
A better question in my opinion is what the initial .2 GT3s with manuals do on the secondary market. Could they go wild like the 911R (to a much lesser extent) or follow the pattern of how the .1s did.
#75
Does anyone think these will fall to the 110-120k range when the .2 manual drops?
A better question in my opinion is what the initial .2 GT3s with manuals do on the secondary market. Could they go wild like the 911R (to a much lesser extent) or follow the pattern of how the .1s did.
A better question in my opinion is what the initial .2 GT3s with manuals do on the secondary market. Could they go wild like the 911R (to a much lesser extent) or follow the pattern of how the .1s did.
My opinion only the .2's will have a bigger mark up than .1's only because of the hype, and new found popularity. Polls show a 50/50 split on PDK vs. manual. I say the sample size is valid based on the large population of repeat GT3 owners on this board with many say they prefer the PDX vs the large left calf muscle. Demand on .1's can actually increase because the regular guy may not be able to get a .2 nor pay the mark up. So with that who knows and good luck. I sold my .1 for 145k with. 151k MSRP in the winter so it's all a guess.