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Which next Porsche 911 GTx model would you buy ?

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Old 09-18-2015, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
the engine weight would stay the same so this lead to choose how the weight would be reduced

Totally new design of light PDK-S or ?
Carbon fiber, just like other car manufacturers do. Also, all of the proposed engines would be heavier than the current one, so even staying in the same weight group but adding power would require carbon fiber.
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I voted for the NA V8, but if there was a choice I'd have selected NA Flat-8. As for weight loss, easiest way to do that is to make the chassis smaller. I'd love to see a return to 997 or 993 (better yet) size.
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intriguing that GT3 with the 4.4L is winning so far

considering the improved torque it would really be the squaring of the circle
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I voted for the NA V8, but if there was a choice I'd have selected NA Flat-8. As for weight loss, easiest way to do that is to make the chassis smaller. I'd love to see a return to 997 or 993 (better yet) size.
That would be amazing. A modern lightweight 993RS with MT option and modern aero and 991rs engine. 2800 pounds!
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A "Cup" lightweight version of the current .1 RS is rumored
(no DD oriented)

and , most likely, the lighter (than 991 GT3) 991R, slippery sauce, without RWS without PDK (997 market..) , 19",
smaller C2 body size, GT3 engine (hopefully) should meet the under 3000lbs with manual fun and involving expectations and not too difficult profitwise for PAG to build it
(no track oriented)

but to combine track DD and Safety capabilties, a carbon tub is really probable in next 992

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Option 2, but a Cayman with an optional 6-speed manual.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I voted for the NA V8, but if there was a choice I'd have selected NA Flat-8. As for weight loss, easiest way to do that is to make the chassis smaller. I'd love to see a return to 997 or 993 (better yet) size.
Steve McQueen was lucky at least to drive a 908 flat 8
circa 2000lbs! i had in mind only quickly doable implementations
but if any i would buy it in a sec
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So far more than 100 votes!
Majority of Porsche enthusiasts
voted to keep the NA flat-6 or V8 with sufficient enhanced
power and torque upgrade

If by force mpg and emission will need to drive the design
of ours next 99x GT3
interesting to note that is still a NA hybrid or kers
over any Turbo the buyers preferred way to go

Keep Voting they listen!
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I would be happy with the 991.2 with a Manual and a weight reduction of 200 lbs. An increase of torque by 25 would suffice. The weight reduction would compensate for no HP gain. Keep the 9000 rpm.

I do not think that I am far off with the suggested above. I am looking for Purity.

Now- if I could dream up my car it would be a 991R. Not a track car but a street car. Give me the Carrera body( not wide body), 19 inch wheels, about 460 hp, 8400 redline and a weight around 2700
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One word "emissions", with that said this poll is a pipe dream. With the EPA/ARB regulations increasing year after year and unless these GT cars are puffing out flower petals they will have to skew towards turbo or hybrid versions within 5-10years.
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As far as the poll goes, make it a NA flat 6 for ever. MT or PDK-S is fine well, MT on RS variants at least. A previous RL member mentioned a 991R mine would be a 991.2/911-GT: Wide body, rear-steer, 325 series rear rubber, MPSC2, cage, no sunroof option, GT3 suspension, regular spoiler (extended sport angle), rear seat delete, MT.
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i voted for it but i don't think a flat 6 bored out to 4.4 l and 560 hp is realistic

i think pag is close to their limit how much more hp they get out of the flat 6 architecture

current 500 hp and less weight would be very nice but reducing weight is very very expensive to accomplish i think
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Losing weight would help emissions a lot. The flat-8 would be my choice over the turbo or hybrids. Seeing as how they would probably never do that, and the flat six is really at such a crazy HP/Liter development it is hard to see more than 10-15% gains on the flat six.

A stroker 4.0 8 cylinder would make pretty incredible HP (570) and keep the NA Vibe while not weighing any more than a 4.0L mezger.

So, a true two seater architecture with a 570hp version of the 918 engine is my choice.
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Flat 6 is 911. no v8 or flat 8 or whatever!
more hp, less weight, more exclusivity compare to other non GT cars.

I am a fan of carbon fiber so carbon fiber everywhere!
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
I would be happy with the 991.2 with a Manual and a weight reduction of 200 lbs. An increase of torque by 25 would suffice. The weight reduction would compensate for no HP gain. Keep the 9000 rpm. I do not think that I am far off with the suggested above. I am looking for Purity. Now- if I could dream up my car it would be a 991R. Not a track car but a street car. Give me the Carrera body( not wide body), 19 inch wheels, about 460 hp, 8400 redline and a weight around 2700
You might be a little optimistic on the weight but apart from that I think you nailed the 991R. Porsche will most likely build a car for you. Hope you get one! I was asked by my dealer if I was interested in a 991R. But, I'm still waiting for my dream 991. '991RS engine will be fine. 500hp is enough. Just make sure it's reliable. 'Interior that matches the exterior, carbon fiber and switch panel ala cup car. Welded visible seems ala Ferrari. Should be able to ditch 150 pounds from the interior itself. Think less is more. 'And please find a new supplier of LWB. Nothing wrong with the seats, but they seem to have some problems with delivery.

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