hf1

I wouldn't compare cars based on their performance in a green run group. We're talking 3/10 at best.

hf1

Well driven Vettes on similar tires have been faster than GT3/RS on almost all tracks, Limerock included. I bet this new Z06 will smoke the new RS at Limerock too. For $79k with track warranty. Insane.

doubleurx

I don't doubt that with that much power! Crazy. FWIW the new GT3 is warranted for track use as well. First time for Porsche.

996FLT6

^hope that's true. Proof is in the pudding til something happens. I would do cartwheels on my 50 year old body if I don't hear a new post on the 991 gt3 forum that warranty wasn't denied being on track. Mike

Carrera GT

The Z06 needs Z07 pack to be potent. It's basically $100K with brakes and seats.

Carrera GT

Again, fwiw, the GT3 has always been "warrantied" regardless of track use, just not track abuse. I had an RS lose its box and Porsche looked it over, noted that I was a time trial driver, decided it was a failure, not a user problem, and I got a new box and new warranty on the box, no questions asked. Same with other wear and tear items that Porsche, by virtue of a good service organization protecting their interests while serving the customer, supported without ever trying to escape their reasonable responsibility for their product. You'll read about people having trouble with Porsche warranty and service -- I can only discourage generalizations.

If you read the news coverage of GM actively planning executive business decisions to let customers crash and burn in their cars rather than incur the cost of a recall. While I have a Z06 order in process and expect a car with the first customers getting the z07 pack, I full well expect GM to "don't know" me if I have trouble beyond anything the dealer can handle.

hf1

z07 pack is $8k (including brakes and aero) so $87k. Aftermarket seats for $2k are probably a better solution anyway. There have been comments that the chevy "buckets" lack side support. Besides, I bet even the "base" z06 would give the RS a good run for its money.

doubleurx

The 991 GT3 Owner's Manual has specific guidelines for maintenance to maintain warranty. I read through it last night and its really not that crazy at all. I believe this is the first time that it is actually in print in the manual, so it will be pretty hard to deny warranty if you follow the text.

Obvious abuse is another subject and no warranty covers that.

ipse dixit

Drag? Speed (lack of)?

frayed

Weight, steering feel/speed/precision.

But folks have to remember that dampers, steering, suspension, wheels, have all been designed as a complete package.

This car doesn't lap like a scalded cat just b/c it's got fat rubbers. . .

wanna911

The american muscle machines just have too much tire these days. Its nuts how big the tires are now. And they can now put down all of that hp with sticky super wide rcomps. Brute force at its best.

orthojoe

Much much slower? Pobst lap times show that the ZL1 is 2 seconds faster around MRLS than the new cayman. Faster for sure, but within a margin narrow enough where it comes down to driver skill at the recreational/amateur level that most of us are driving in.

+1000. Green run group comparisons are totally worthless.

frayed

You think the murican cars have too much tire?

hf1

Tire size needs to go up as HP increases. Physics.

TRAKCAR

If I'd fit in a Corvette, Id already own one.

The Z28 is tempting but so heavy..As the Camaro depreciates it will be a track bargain, great car to replace the Rustang..