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11-17-2013, 07:20 AM
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I guess Porsche is still a little PO'd at Jason Cammisa for calling them out early in the game for not offering a manual in the new GT3. Looks like Cammisa is now to Porsche what Chris Harris is to Ferrari. Wonder if that had anything to do with the Cayman's last place showing…...
Anyway, on to the "shocking" result:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/bestof20...ar-of-the-year
And in case you missed the Cammisa review:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...911-gt3-review
Anyway, on to the "shocking" result:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/bestof20...ar-of-the-year
And in case you missed the Cammisa review:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-revi...911-gt3-review
11-17-2013, 07:38 AM
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Curious that unlike the Euro mags...R&T was unable to source a GT3....
Also second mag - after EVO - to accord the SLS Black....high accolades.
Shame GM don't see fit to make the C7 RHD....be worth an exploration..me thinks..but piloting from the left seat....and that wide...rather rules out a B road blaster on this side of the pond...
Also second mag - after EVO - to accord the SLS Black....high accolades.
Shame GM don't see fit to make the C7 RHD....be worth an exploration..me thinks..but piloting from the left seat....and that wide...rather rules out a B road blaster on this side of the pond...
11-17-2013, 09:37 AM
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Initial reviews of the new Cayman were glowing, and interesting to see that some more recent reviews find the car to be somewhat blah. I drove one on the road and found it considerably less engaging than our Cayman R. I figured it would be more fun when dialed up, but I found it to be less engaging on the track than our Cayman R also. I thought I was going to be alone in that feeling, but apparently not. Maybe a GTS or R (or GT3) version of the new Cayman would bring back some of the missing engagement.
11-17-2013, 11:31 AM
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Initial reviews of the new Cayman were glowing, and interesting to see that some more recent reviews find the car to be somewhat blah. I drove one on the road and found it considerably less engaging than our Cayman R. I figured it would be more fun when dialed up, but I found it to be less engaging on the track than our Cayman R also. I thought I was going to be alone in that feeling, but apparently not. Maybe a GTS or R (or GT3) version of the new Cayman would bring back some of the missing engagement.
11-17-2013, 12:41 PM
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Imho the 981 chassis is great, but Porsche doesn't let it shine as much as it did the 987 chassis with the R… In the German endurance series "RCN" there is a driver who swopped his fully track-speced 987R for a 981S (same spec etc) and with the 981 he suddenly is about 6 Seconds faster than in his 987R around the Nordschleife (and he was champion last year in the RCN, so no, it isn't purely because he just improved his skills)…
And I dunno why people think that Porsche could be PO with R&T… the fact that they didn't get a GT3 is simple… There are just no GT3s atm in the USA that Porsche could have given them ;-) …
BTW: Don't get the point why the bad 981 result is posted in the GT3 category, or am I missing something?
Here the laps for comparison:
981 (full lap 7:39) ->
987 (full lap 7:45) ->
And I dunno why people think that Porsche could be PO with R&T… the fact that they didn't get a GT3 is simple… There are just no GT3s atm in the USA that Porsche could have given them ;-) …
BTW: Don't get the point why the bad 981 result is posted in the GT3 category, or am I missing something?
Here the laps for comparison:
981 (full lap 7:39) ->
987 (full lap 7:45) ->
11-17-2013, 01:15 PM
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I just drove a 981 Cayman S shortly after driving a friend's 991S...the Cayman is significantly more involving, the electric steering (though not great) is much better than that in the 991S (which felt like a Buick's), and of course turn-in and handling balance are a step up from those of the 991S.
It's easy to see why Porsche hamstrings the mid-engine car with lower power outputs than its 991 brethren, because it's now a clearly better driver's car. This from a lifelong 911 fan who's had five of them over the years.
It's easy to see why Porsche hamstrings the mid-engine car with lower power outputs than its 991 brethren, because it's now a clearly better driver's car. This from a lifelong 911 fan who's had five of them over the years.
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11-17-2013, 01:15 PM
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Initial reviews of the new Cayman were glowing, and interesting to see that some more recent reviews find the car to be somewhat blah. I drove one on the road and found it considerably less engaging than our Cayman R. I figured it would be more fun when dialed up, but I found it to be less engaging on the track than our Cayman R also. I thought I was going to be alone in that feeling, but apparently not. Maybe a GTS or R (or GT3) version of the new Cayman would bring back some of the missing engagement.
11-19-2013, 11:08 AM
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11-19-2013, 06:51 PM
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