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Old 05-08-2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by erik_plus8
Thanks a lot for checking and I am looking forward to more info on the subject
You,Gravs,myself and a few hundred others in the same boat. Reading the Speedster's spec sheet leads me to either of two assumptions...Either Porsche will get a special one off dispensation for a small limited number of an existing model ie GT3 RS, where the requirement to fit GPFs are waived.
The second assumption is that the second batch RSs will indeed have the mandatory GPFs fitted along with some pretty extensive internal engine changes to counteract the GPFs...These changes could be the ITBs or something else entirely we haven't thought about..
Its very strange that nothing has been leaked from Porsche about the second batch WLTP qualifying RSs, which leads my conspiracy theorist brain into thinking that some substantial top secret changes have been made.
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Worlds largest air brake!


Old 05-08-2019, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt44
Worlds largest air brake!




Outnumbers the RS when it comes to downforce.
Old 05-08-2019, 08:45 AM
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Not clear is it 50kg heavier than a Touring ?Not sure because pccb are standard in the Speedster not in the Touring,
so in reality is the Speedster 70kg heavier than a Touring with pccb?

What about of the aircon not standard in the Speedster? another 15kg?
thus 85kg heavier in total?

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Old 05-08-2019, 10:34 AM
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If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Isn't the body in white the same as the Cabrio??
Old 05-08-2019, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
Not clear is it 50kg heavier than a Touring ?Not sure because pccb are standard in the Speedster not in the Touring,
so in reality is the Speedster 70kg heavier than a Touring with pccb?

What about of the aircon not standard in the Speedster? another 15kg?
thus 85kg heavier in total?
I am also a little bit suprised about the weight gain. I thought this car is like the 911 R without a roof, however the R is even around >250 pounds lighter, correct!?
Old 05-08-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt44
Worlds largest air brake!


Wow, shove your surfboard in there and bungee the whole thing down for surf trips!
Old 05-08-2019, 12:17 PM
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So the Speedster with ADM is going to cost about the same as two GT3 Touring. Then a couple of years from now, it will be worth less than a 911R as the production numbers about about double. I think many 918 VIP's are going to pass on this car and ADM will come down significantly very quickly.
Old 05-08-2019, 12:31 PM
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How cool is this first hand reporting, wow, supercool!
Stout, better than any car review out there

If you can clone yourself a couple or three times you could take over Youtube with 000.
Old 05-08-2019, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bli8
So the Speedster with ADM is going to cost about the same as two GT3 Touring. Then a couple of years from now, it will be worth less than a 911R as the production numbers about about double. I think many 918 VIP's are going to pass on this car and ADM will come down significantly very quickly.
Hard to disagree with the logic, but this is a "Speedster"... Those definitely have a special following.
Old 05-08-2019, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
Not clear is it 50kg heavier than a Touring ?Not sure because pccb are standard in the Speedster not in the Touring,
so in reality is the Speedster 70kg heavier than a Touring with pccb?

What about of the aircon not standard in the Speedster? another 15kg?
thus 85kg heavier in total?
Porsche quotes their weight figures in the lightest possible spec according to one of their engineers, so the Touring you'd need to compare to would have PCCBs, etc.
Old 05-08-2019, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Isn't the body in white the same as the Cabrio??
Read something about extra bracing made possible because of no back seats.
Old 05-08-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
Porsche quotes their weight figures in the lightest possible spec according to one of their engineers, so the Touring you'd need to compare to would have PCCBs, etc.
Btw Touring cannot delete the a/c
Old 05-08-2019, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
Btw Touring cannot delete the a/c
Correct.Which means that with all other things being equal the real difference between the Touring and the Speedster rises from 50Kg to 65-70Kg...Coincidentally this is exactly the same as between the standard 991 Coupe and 991 Cabrio..Some clever marketing spin going on here methinks..!
Old 05-08-2019, 07:08 PM
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As Pete Stout politely asked in the first post of this thread : PLEASE KEEP THE VALUE DISCUSSIONS ON THE OTHER 10 SPEEDSTER THREADS!
I come here to read about the car I could give a rat's behind what you think the car should cost or what it should be worth down the road!
Thanks.


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