Orthojoe says .2 with manual is AWESOME
12-26-2017, 11:33 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
If it's OrthoJoe approved then I know I'll love it as well. If the GT3 was PDK only then I was have passed on it, one of the main reasons why I bought it was because of the manual transmission. Can't wait till late Feb to get mine.
BW trip next year! I just hope I don't go off!!! Lol
12-27-2017, 12:18 AM
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Hahaha, funny stuff. I always said that once the honeymoon period passed, people would be bored with the PDK. Truth is that you'll always prefer what you don't have. Something about grass always being greener because it's fertilized with bull$hit. Anyways, if you want to have fun on the street, you're buying the wrong car. Get the Boxster Spyder and never look back.
(The above is a rationalization for why I'm willing to buy cars, but have a hard time selling them.)
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12-27-2017, 12:36 AM
#48
Guys,
My buddy took delivery of his .2 recently and he brought it over for me to show him the ropes on the centerlocks/pad changes and to install the Laguna GPS device.
Before we got started, though, I got a chance to take out of for a spin.
HOLY. CRAP.
Porsche has done it again. They've somehow made seemly small changes and ended up turning everything up an entire notch.
I was skeptical that the .2 would be much different than the .1, but it IS.
The engine is another step up for sure. It's not some subtle thing you can only appreciate on paper. You feel it. You hear it. You love it. Nothing beats the sound of this engine.
One of the reasons I opted for a manual on my .2 was because I felt that if I didn't, the car would be much different than the .1 and I wanted to see what all of the 911R hubbub was about. After driving the car, oh boy AM I GLAD I opted for the manual.
I'm going to have to eat some crow here. I bought into the whole "the engine is better suited for PDK" thing when the .1 was announced. While the PDK-S transmission is fantastic, having a manual tranny with the GT3 engine is a TOTALLY new experience and I LOVE IT. PDK works perfectly, fires off perfect shifts, and opens up some bandwith when you are on the track. However, I have always thought that the .1 was boring on the street because it was too fast and the PDK took away from the fun. The .2 GT3 was a BLAST driving around the streets/highway. Using that shifter and hearing the noises that go along with it was just killer. Seeing that tach run all of the way to redline and then throwing the shifter into the next gear gets that adrenaline flowing big time. I wish I had video running while I was test driving the car and you guys would see the enormous grin and all of the gleeful comments flying out of my mouth.
Here are some pics of the miami blue car. It looks decent in the pics, but I'm honestly not a fan.
If you want the best description of what it looks like in real life, think of Dr. Seuss blue:
My buddy took delivery of his .2 recently and he brought it over for me to show him the ropes on the centerlocks/pad changes and to install the Laguna GPS device.
Before we got started, though, I got a chance to take out of for a spin.
HOLY. CRAP.
Porsche has done it again. They've somehow made seemly small changes and ended up turning everything up an entire notch.
I was skeptical that the .2 would be much different than the .1, but it IS.
The engine is another step up for sure. It's not some subtle thing you can only appreciate on paper. You feel it. You hear it. You love it. Nothing beats the sound of this engine.
One of the reasons I opted for a manual on my .2 was because I felt that if I didn't, the car would be much different than the .1 and I wanted to see what all of the 911R hubbub was about. After driving the car, oh boy AM I GLAD I opted for the manual.
I'm going to have to eat some crow here. I bought into the whole "the engine is better suited for PDK" thing when the .1 was announced. While the PDK-S transmission is fantastic, having a manual tranny with the GT3 engine is a TOTALLY new experience and I LOVE IT. PDK works perfectly, fires off perfect shifts, and opens up some bandwith when you are on the track. However, I have always thought that the .1 was boring on the street because it was too fast and the PDK took away from the fun. The .2 GT3 was a BLAST driving around the streets/highway. Using that shifter and hearing the noises that go along with it was just killer. Seeing that tach run all of the way to redline and then throwing the shifter into the next gear gets that adrenaline flowing big time. I wish I had video running while I was test driving the car and you guys would see the enormous grin and all of the gleeful comments flying out of my mouth.
Here are some pics of the miami blue car. It looks decent in the pics, but I'm honestly not a fan.
If you want the best description of what it looks like in real life, think of Dr. Seuss blue:
Secondly, given the car is new, I'm curious how many miles the owner put on the clock before the motor was redlined.
Finally, happy to report my own GT3 991.2 was accepted and of course I'm going MT - there was never any doubt!
12-27-2017, 12:54 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by ranger22
Hahaha, funny stuff. I always said that once the honeymoon period passed, people would be bored with the PDK. Truth is that you'll always prefer what you don't have. Something about grass always being greener because it's fertilized with bull$hit. Anyways, if you want to have fun on the street, you're buying the wrong car. Get the Boxster Spyder and never look back.
Originally Posted by orthojoe
Lots of truth in this post
it's not always greener on the other side... (I always knew that pdk and outright speed at the expense of man-machine engagement weren't for me)
12-27-2017, 01:09 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by WernerE
Secondly, given the car is new, I'm curious how many miles the owner put on the clock before the motor was redlined.
I would never drive someone else's car in a way that they wouldn't want me to and I wouldn't do with my own car. The owner was in the car with me egging me on. The car is going to the track this weekend and will be driven at full tilt where I was invited to do the same.
Personally, I keep the car just below redline and not at full throttle when near redline for 2 full tanks of gas before I let it rip full tilt on my own cars. I doubt that really does anything, but it does it for me mentally, which is what break in is all about: mental comfort. Some people will chime in with no data to back it up whatsoever that I'm damaging the car that way. Guess what? 90 track days on the .1 GT3 with 700 orthojoe type break in miles . I tried my best to destroy that engine because I wanted a new one before I sold it, but it just would not die and ran like a champ. Then on the flip side you get people who babied the car it's entire life and the engine blew. My point is there is no correlation with engine brake in method and engine life/Performance, and nobody has any proof of it either way.
Then you have to wonder about the guys who say they follow 2000 mile break in, but rave about the car and then sell it before the 2000 Miles? Wut? Rave about a car you never even opened up?
I probably opened up a can of worms here. Lol
12-27-2017, 01:16 AM
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i love manual and I also
love pdk. blond brunette red heads i
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Enough break in miles where both the owner and I had no issues with doing so and it was redlined long before I did, LoL. ;-)
I would never drive someone else's car in a way that they wouldn't want me to and I wouldn't do with my own car. The owner was in the car with me egging me on. The car is going to the track this weekend and will be driven at full tilt where I was invited to do the same.
Personally, I keep the car just below redline and not at full throttle when near redline for 2 full tanks of gas before I let it rip full tilt on my own cars. I doubt that really does anything, but it does it for me mentally, which is what break in is all about: mental comfort. Some people will chime in with no data to back it up whatsoever that I'm damaging the car that way. Guess what? 90 track days on the .1 GT3 with 700 orthojoe type break in miles . I tried my best to destroy that engine because I wanted a new one before I sold it, but it just would not die and ran like a champ. Then on the flip side you get people who babied the car it's entire life and the engine blew. My point is there is no correlation with engine brake in method and engine life/Performance, and nobody has any proof of it either way.
Then you have to wonder about the guys who say they follow 2000 mile break in, but rave about the car and then sell it before the 2000 Miles? Wut? Rave about a car you never even opened up?
I probably opened up a can of worms here. Lol
I would never drive someone else's car in a way that they wouldn't want me to and I wouldn't do with my own car. The owner was in the car with me egging me on. The car is going to the track this weekend and will be driven at full tilt where I was invited to do the same.
Personally, I keep the car just below redline and not at full throttle when near redline for 2 full tanks of gas before I let it rip full tilt on my own cars. I doubt that really does anything, but it does it for me mentally, which is what break in is all about: mental comfort. Some people will chime in with no data to back it up whatsoever that I'm damaging the car that way. Guess what? 90 track days on the .1 GT3 with 700 orthojoe type break in miles . I tried my best to destroy that engine because I wanted a new one before I sold it, but it just would not die and ran like a champ. Then on the flip side you get people who babied the car it's entire life and the engine blew. My point is there is no correlation with engine brake in method and engine life/Performance, and nobody has any proof of it either way.
Then you have to wonder about the guys who say they follow 2000 mile break in, but rave about the car and then sell it before the 2000 Miles? Wut? Rave about a car you never even opened up?
I probably opened up a can of worms here. Lol
have things against break in just I have zero patience. haven’t had issues with any of my p car engines. gearbox. Yes.
12-27-2017, 01:16 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
I really hope that the Spyder wasn't the end-all of engagement because I sold mine to fit the manual gt3 in my garage. I honestly can't imagine a more fun sub-500hp car than the spyder, hopefully the gt3.2 Manual's amazing engine and 911 handling traits compensates.
it's not always greener on the other side... (I always knew that pdk and outright speed at the expense of man-machine engagement weren't for me)
it's not always greener on the other side... (I always knew that pdk and outright speed at the expense of man-machine engagement weren't for me)
12-27-2017, 01:36 AM
#53
I hope the manual slows you down enough so I can keep up at the track.
12-27-2017, 01:50 AM
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12-27-2017, 02:05 AM
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On the topic of running in the engine........ Porsche South Africa organised a track day for all clients who ordered a .2 GT3 and flew in Porsche driving instructors to drive laps around the track. Three cars, all PDK, redlined every gear for two laps plus one cool down. Milleage.......50kms.
Saw it for sale with 400kms by Porsche SA with full warranty and maintenance plan.
Will I buy it? No. But it illustrates what in particular Porsche SA thinks about running these engines.
Saw it for sale with 400kms by Porsche SA with full warranty and maintenance plan.
Will I buy it? No. But it illustrates what in particular Porsche SA thinks about running these engines.
12-27-2017, 02:07 AM
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You'll miss the open top experience on a nice day. I don't miss my .1gt3. I'm not gonna miss my gt4, but I still miss my 987 spyder. You can't beat the spyder when it comes street driving on a nice day. My problem is I'm not a fan of canyon/mountain runs so I rarely got a chance to enjoy the spyder for what it was meant for.
i never owned any GT4
12-27-2017, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
If it's OrthoJoe approved then I know I'll love it as well. If the GT3 was PDK only then I was have passed on it, one of the main reasons why I bought it was because of the manual transmission. Can't wait till late Feb to get mine.
12-27-2017, 02:58 AM
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12-27-2017, 10:10 PM
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^ LMAO. i thought you had devil red eyes?
12-28-2017, 12:36 AM
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On the topic of running in the engine........ Porsche South Africa organised a track day for all clients who ordered a .2 GT3 and flew in Porsche driving instructors to drive laps around the track. Three cars, all PDK, redlined every gear for two laps plus one cool down. Milleage.......50kms.
Saw it for sale with 400kms by Porsche SA with full warranty and maintenance plan.
Will I buy it? No. But it illustrates what in particular Porsche SA thinks about running these engines.
Saw it for sale with 400kms by Porsche SA with full warranty and maintenance plan.
Will I buy it? No. But it illustrates what in particular Porsche SA thinks about running these engines.
But also, agree... there is no proven 'best method'... whatever makes you feel best. My feeling is... just don't 'bang on the rev limiiter'... and dont 'shock the suspension/trans' with hard shifts etc... other than that... run it through it's rpm range and enjoy the car.
Best Regards
Dave