The "Unofficial" 991.2 GT3 Production Number Stats
06-20-2019, 07:44 PM
#1126
Just showing that if you break out options most of our cars fall into “not that many”. GT3 is a model but Touring is not, it’s just an option and wasn’t limited in any way other then demand. If you do the same with GT3RS with 909WP option plus declare a color like say Lava Orange there were only two ever built for NA. If you take my Chalk 3RS with 808WP and all leather options it’s one of one.
The reality is that they made ~5,500 991 GT3’s for NA and ~3,200 991 GT3RS’s. The only way we can say “not that many” is by adding in options to create “value” and “rarity”.
either way congratulations on your new car. They’re amazing. Get out and drive!
The reality is that they made ~5,500 991 GT3’s for NA and ~3,200 991 GT3RS’s. The only way we can say “not that many” is by adding in options to create “value” and “rarity”.
either way congratulations on your new car. They’re amazing. Get out and drive!
If you really know exactly how many 991 GT3s were produced(.1 and .2), you would also know the options each have.
06-20-2019, 07:55 PM
#1127
Statistical assumptions are one thing. Not sure what real formula you’re basing the WW Touring production on. Only thing I can tel you is that the real WW Touring production (yes, it’s just a GT3, and the Touring is technically only an option) is barely over 1000 WW. It does not even exceed 1200. And that doesn’t even matter to me. I had a couple of regular “wing” GT3s since 997. I don’t care for the R. If they built 10k Tourings it still wouldn’t matter. But assumptions and facts are two different things.
If you really know exactly how many 991 GT3s were produced(.1 and .2), you would also know the options each have.
If you really know exactly how many 991 GT3s were produced(.1 and .2), you would also know the options each have.
Last edited by Dot23RS; 06-20-2019 at 08:46 PM.
06-20-2019, 09:52 PM
#1128
Rennlist Member
The above reminds me of Porsche's latest ad tag for the 718 GT4, "perfectly irrational".
These cars absolutely are irrational purchases, and so is the market behavior sometimes.
God bless America for choosing and pulling high numbers of these beauties!!!
BTW @ryantt are we ready for a split chart of GT3 between winged and Tourings?
Thanks in advance!
These cars absolutely are irrational purchases, and so is the market behavior sometimes.
God bless America for choosing and pulling high numbers of these beauties!!!
BTW @ryantt are we ready for a split chart of GT3 between winged and Tourings?
Thanks in advance!
06-21-2019, 12:40 PM
#1129
Instructor
I don’t think anyone here is arguing facts. The reality is there are over 2,100 991.1 NA GT3’s and there are over 3,200 991.2 GT3’s produced for N.A. alone. of those there are at least 750 that have the Touring option in NA. I find it very difficult to believe North America received ~80% of global production of a specific option. The closer metric which all Touring owners would be happy with is the R. Of which 323 of 991 total came to NA. Virtually all 911 models for the past decade have had about a third of global production sent to NA. To think 80% would be very unusual, especially in this economy.
07-08-2019, 10:55 PM
#1134
Rennlist Member
I’m going to hold off posting them for a bit while I wait for some of the older builds to back fill into the database. Maybe another month or so.
The numbers won’t look that much different from my last post, if you need something quick now.
The numbers won’t look that much different from my last post, if you need something quick now.
07-26-2019, 01:46 AM
#1135
New Touring
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For what it is worth I buy the cars, drive them and enjoy them. That’s what they are for. The only way these cars are going to be an investment worth more than just keeping your money in smart investments is if you put them in a bubble for decades and hope there is still guys out there that want your specific car with your spec you ordered. Exception here is of course the 918 and a handful of others. GT3s are not.
I have buddies that are buying the more limited numbered cars and they feel guilty every time they put a mile on it.
They are miserable to be around because their mood swings with the value of their cars and the value of trying to buy and sell a GT car swings with the market or finding people that don’t understand the market or care about how they waste their money. Save yourself the pain and suffering. Drive them or don’t buy them and think it’s an investment.
I ordered and just received a GT3 Touring PTS in Sport Classic Grey because I love that color. Porsche put that on the limited (250) 997 Sport Classic Coupes they built. Decided on the Touring because I love a manual 911 and the discreet look that fits my age of 60. Also ordered it with the carbon fiber seats and a few CXX options to incorporate some Acid Green accents. I know it’s one of a few out there in Sport Classic Grey with Acid Green and I wanted it that way so it was unique to me. Most like it some don’t. That’s ok....it’s mine and I love it.
There is a real easy technique to get in and out of the carbon fiber seats. It does require you to be able to support your weight on the door sill and steering wheel so if you can’t do that it might be challenging. These seats are made to drive on the track or on windy mountain roads that we enjoy in Utah. That’s where my car lives. If you are going to drive more than 200 miles in a day buy a 911 with Adaptive seats.
These are phoenomenal cars designed and engineered by a company that has more engineers than production workers. Enjoy them!!
I agree with you! I’m a fellow Utahn and I’m getting a full PPF in two weeks because I plan on driving it as often as possible!!
I have buddies that are buying the more limited numbered cars and they feel guilty every time they put a mile on it.
They are miserable to be around because their mood swings with the value of their cars and the value of trying to buy and sell a GT car swings with the market or finding people that don’t understand the market or care about how they waste their money. Save yourself the pain and suffering. Drive them or don’t buy them and think it’s an investment.
I ordered and just received a GT3 Touring PTS in Sport Classic Grey because I love that color. Porsche put that on the limited (250) 997 Sport Classic Coupes they built. Decided on the Touring because I love a manual 911 and the discreet look that fits my age of 60. Also ordered it with the carbon fiber seats and a few CXX options to incorporate some Acid Green accents. I know it’s one of a few out there in Sport Classic Grey with Acid Green and I wanted it that way so it was unique to me. Most like it some don’t. That’s ok....it’s mine and I love it.
There is a real easy technique to get in and out of the carbon fiber seats. It does require you to be able to support your weight on the door sill and steering wheel so if you can’t do that it might be challenging. These seats are made to drive on the track or on windy mountain roads that we enjoy in Utah. That’s where my car lives. If you are going to drive more than 200 miles in a day buy a 911 with Adaptive seats.
These are phoenomenal cars designed and engineered by a company that has more engineers than production workers. Enjoy them!!
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07-26-2019, 10:40 AM
#1136
Rennlist Member
^ actaully I'd say depends on your body type, for over 200 miles in a stint I prefer the buckets, the other seats are too soft for me, gettng in and out of the buckets is the only drawback to me
08-03-2019, 04:36 PM
#1137
Racer
fun to go through. so my '19 white with satin black magnesium wheels is probably 1 of 3 like that in the US (I know math is flawed...)
08-04-2019, 07:35 AM
#1138
As for White with 452-XDK wheels you are exactly correct. There are three built for the US. All three are 808WP.
There is also one white 909WP with silver mags and four (three 808, one 909) with aurum mags. Add the six with unpainted mags and there are a total of 14 produced that are white with mags.
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