Boxster Spyder Gearing
#1
Racer
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Boxster Spyder Gearing
Having read the Road and Track article I'm wondering if those that have taken delivery can comment? Does the car need to hit high rpm's to fly? Would you have preferred shorter gears? Can this be modified?
I find the need for RPM's and tall gears the biggest shortcoming of my 3.4 991 Carrera, and having considered selling it and picking up a Spyder, would be disappointed if the situation were similar. Then again, the 3.8 coupled with lighter weight should make it a different animal altogether.
Just looking for your thoughts.
I find the need for RPM's and tall gears the biggest shortcoming of my 3.4 991 Carrera, and having considered selling it and picking up a Spyder, would be disappointed if the situation were similar. Then again, the 3.8 coupled with lighter weight should make it a different animal altogether.
Just looking for your thoughts.
#3
Official Wednesday AM Red Bull F1 test driver
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I changed the ring and pinion on my '71 914 to lower all the gears a little as I autocrossed it a lot when I first got it back in 1971... it did affect RPM when cruising on the highway but it wasn't a long trip cruiser anyway. Went from a 7/31 to a 6/29 if I remember correctly (it's been a while!).
Wonder if something like that would be an option???
Wonder if something like that would be an option???
#4
Racer
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LOL it's good old boring Platinum Silver, plain and simple, but I think the pic I took must have had some filter on it; I didn't realize at the time. My brother had a 996 that was a bronze color and looked just like the pic in the avatar, so I kept the picture and decided to use it on the avatar.
#5
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I changed the ring and pinion on my '71 914 to lower all the gears a little as I autocrossed it a lot when I first got it back in 1971... it did affect RPM when cruising on the highway but it wasn't a long trip cruiser anyway. Went from a 7/31 to a 6/29 if I remember correctly (it's been a while!).
Wonder if something like that would be an option???
Wonder if something like that would be an option???
#6
it will depend on your driving style and what you expect out of the car... if you like hearing the engine at higher RPMs more often or want to get maximum power/acceleration out of the car often, then you will find it a bit annoying that you can't optimize for your needs.
Speaking from my experience with the GT4, the exhaust note with PSE on and the acceleration at the lower RPMs is fine/better if you compare with a base, S or GTS Boxster. but if you compare with a 7 speed PDK'd 911S, then you may be slightly disappointed, though not by much.
Would the car be more fun on the street if it needed 3 gears to get to 85 instead of 2? for me, absolutely but for now, that does not seem to be an option. In the meantime, you can enjoy the car for what it is.
The one disadvantage the Spyder has over the GT4 is that the power curve runs out sooner than the GT4, likely making the tall gearing of the lower gears a bit more noticeable
Speaking from my experience with the GT4, the exhaust note with PSE on and the acceleration at the lower RPMs is fine/better if you compare with a base, S or GTS Boxster. but if you compare with a 7 speed PDK'd 911S, then you may be slightly disappointed, though not by much.
Would the car be more fun on the street if it needed 3 gears to get to 85 instead of 2? for me, absolutely but for now, that does not seem to be an option. In the meantime, you can enjoy the car for what it is.
The one disadvantage the Spyder has over the GT4 is that the power curve runs out sooner than the GT4, likely making the tall gearing of the lower gears a bit more noticeable
#7
Three Wheelin'
Spyder's tall gearing is what I am really concerned about. It's gonna be a phenomenal car; but, the damn gearing is gonna mess it up for me! In S2000, you hit the red line as follows: 1st: 38 miles, 2nd: 56, 3rd: 78, 4th: 100 (I think). The result is, incredibly satisfying shift action and the music of engine note. I love to rev anything I drive/ride.
Spyder's gearing is the same deal as other 981 models except base. So, it's not gonna be good. The sad thing is, Porsche believes nothing wrong with that picture! I need to wait till I get to drive it. But, I am preparing myself for a bit of a disappointment! No meaningful solution out there, I am afraid!
Spyder's gearing is the same deal as other 981 models except base. So, it's not gonna be good. The sad thing is, Porsche believes nothing wrong with that picture! I need to wait till I get to drive it. But, I am preparing myself for a bit of a disappointment! No meaningful solution out there, I am afraid!
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I would love to hear the real reason for the gearing from porsche. If it is a real performance advantage, I'd like to know more....
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#9
Spyder's tall gearing is what I am really concerned about. It's gonna be a phenomenal car; but, the damn gearing is gonna mess it up for me! In S2000, you hit the red line as follows: 1st: 38 miles, 2nd: 56, 3rd: 78, 4th: 100 (I think). The result is, incredibly satisfying shift action and the music of engine note. I love to rev anything I drive/ride.
Spyder's gearing is the same deal as other 981 models except base. So, it's not gonna be good. The sad thing is, Porsche believes nothing wrong with that picture! I need to wait till I get to drive it. But, I am preparing myself for a bit of a disappointment! No meaningful solution out there, I am afraid!
Spyder's gearing is the same deal as other 981 models except base. So, it's not gonna be good. The sad thing is, Porsche believes nothing wrong with that picture! I need to wait till I get to drive it. But, I am preparing myself for a bit of a disappointment! No meaningful solution out there, I am afraid!
#10
It's to create a performance advantage for the 911S At the very least, you'd think they'd keep the same engine tune as the GT4 so that the power peak is closer to redline. With the Spyder, there will definitely be a noticeable power dip shifting between 1st and 2nd.
#13
It's not a problem at all unless you want to spend all day bouncing off the rev limiter
In the real world and shifting at 6k rpm there's lots of gear changing to be done in spirited back roads driving.
I certainly haven't found myself bothered - haven't noticed much difference in shifting with my 2eleven in fact.
In the real world and shifting at 6k rpm there's lots of gear changing to be done in spirited back roads driving.
I certainly haven't found myself bothered - haven't noticed much difference in shifting with my 2eleven in fact.
#14
Racer
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I'm hoping the Boxster Spyder with it's 3.8 and lighter weight will make up that difference. At the very least, it's super cool and a semi-exotic, in my mind, and that may make it all worthwhile regardless.
#15
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