Help convince me.....Cayman S vs. Z51
#31
Now if you don't mind attention and still want to spend "Porsche tax " level money.
Hennessy
HPE600 Supercharged ($12,495) 600 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE700 Supercharged ($18,450) 700 hp @ 6,300 rpm
Hennessy
HPE600 Supercharged ($12,495) 600 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE700 Supercharged ($18,450) 700 hp @ 6,300 rpm
#34
Cayman is the ultimate sleeper now.. Especially that 3.8L BGB's selling.
A 981 Boxster R will probably be quicker than a Cayman S or probably a Cayman R though. Recall the Overbeek Cayman R vs. 987 Spyder test on the karting track.
Now if you don't mind attention and still want to spend "Porsche tax " level money.
Hennessy
HPE600 Supercharged ($12,495) 600 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE700 Supercharged ($18,450) 700 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE800 Twin-Turbo ($54,950) 800 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE1000 Twin-Turbo ($67,950) 1,100 hp @ 6,300 rpm
A 981 Boxster R will probably be quicker than a Cayman S or probably a Cayman R though. Recall the Overbeek Cayman R vs. 987 Spyder test on the karting track.
Now if you don't mind attention and still want to spend "Porsche tax " level money.
Hennessy
HPE600 Supercharged ($12,495) 600 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE700 Supercharged ($18,450) 700 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE800 Twin-Turbo ($54,950) 800 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE1000 Twin-Turbo ($67,950) 1,100 hp @ 6,300 rpm
Last edited by nbrigdan; 07-19-2013 at 11:14 PM.
#35
Whatever anyone types there is no getting around the FACT the "Vette" company is also responsible for these products which make the 924 seem like a CGT in performance.
First, their other vette:
First, their other vette:
#38
i think there is no way around the fact that both cars are marketed for people after different things.
leaving aside branding.
Corvette typifies the American buyer who wants major HP in a light body.
The porsche is built at a higher price point assuming you will buy lots of options but is a sports car right to the driving feel and controls interface. It's like a well-thought out machine instead of compromising some aspects in order to focus on others.
what do you want in a car? bragging HP rights and smoky starts or a well-engineered sports car. Of course GM is capable of delivering a porsche competitor but they have decided to do focus on HP and cater to that market.
all are niche products and there is no right answer......
leaving aside branding.
Corvette typifies the American buyer who wants major HP in a light body.
The porsche is built at a higher price point assuming you will buy lots of options but is a sports car right to the driving feel and controls interface. It's like a well-thought out machine instead of compromising some aspects in order to focus on others.
what do you want in a car? bragging HP rights and smoky starts or a well-engineered sports car. Of course GM is capable of delivering a porsche competitor but they have decided to do focus on HP and cater to that market.
all are niche products and there is no right answer......
#39
Show em who is boss? I leave that to the family badges, besides, trying to claim some sort of human superiority based on a stop light race is for children, to me it's akin to comparing ***** which any thinking man will tell you comparing the **** appointment books is a better gauge than size.
#41
C'mon - give us a bit more. Why do you say this?
Let me repeat something I said earlier: I'm not terrible concerned about 0-60 times (given that anything I buy will be <5 sec) - I'm really concerned more about handling (cornering), and it will be a daily driver.
Both cars are EPA-rated at 30 mpg highway (though I doubt I'll ever see that), both are really, really fast and suitable for "spirited" driving. The 'Vette has more brute force, and is less expensive, but brute force isn't at the top of my list (if it were, I'd probably just get a used 911Turbo and be done with it).
When it really boils down, I guess I'm asking whether the P-car will handle better than the 'Vette with enough difference to justify the higher price......?
Let me repeat something I said earlier: I'm not terrible concerned about 0-60 times (given that anything I buy will be <5 sec) - I'm really concerned more about handling (cornering), and it will be a daily driver.
Both cars are EPA-rated at 30 mpg highway (though I doubt I'll ever see that), both are really, really fast and suitable for "spirited" driving. The 'Vette has more brute force, and is less expensive, but brute force isn't at the top of my list (if it were, I'd probably just get a used 911Turbo and be done with it).
When it really boils down, I guess I'm asking whether the P-car will handle better than the 'Vette with enough difference to justify the higher price......?
#42
Three Wheelin'
Since nobody here including me has likely driven both of these cars, it's all speculation. In regard to previous generations, the last vette handled far better than I expected but still had quirks, especially when cornering fast over bumpy roads. It was still a blast to drive although I have more fun driving my base, underpowered and under torqued 981 boxster. Why? Because the handling of a mid engine car is what appeals to me. I also prefer hearing the sound of the engine coming from behind the car rather than in front. That said, I'll probably test drive the new vette when it's released. Who knows, maybe its handling will surprise us all.
#43
quality of engineering in a porsche is unsurpassed... with a 981 cayman, you get engineering from a 991 (which is a much more expensive car)....
so many of us have owned domestic,japanese and other german marques.......... has any one of those ever exceeded the engineered excellence of a porsche from the steering to the shifter to the clutch takeup to the feel of the brakes and how everything just falls into place? The answer is NO.
at this price point, the cayman has everyone covered except those that want more HP. No one wants a direct fight with a cayman, not even a 991...................
so many of us have owned domestic,japanese and other german marques.......... has any one of those ever exceeded the engineered excellence of a porsche from the steering to the shifter to the clutch takeup to the feel of the brakes and how everything just falls into place? The answer is NO.
at this price point, the cayman has everyone covered except those that want more HP. No one wants a direct fight with a cayman, not even a 991...................
#45
Having been an owner of a 2005 C6, I learned a lesson, never buy the first year of a new model corvette. And actually I think waiting 3 years would be even better.
I think this especially applies to the C7. There is a massive amount of new technology in the C7 and I just don't have the confidence that Chevy can pull this off without some major issues.
And besides, until the magazines start testing the production units, we really don't know what the C7 will be.
I think this especially applies to the C7. There is a massive amount of new technology in the C7 and I just don't have the confidence that Chevy can pull this off without some major issues.
And besides, until the magazines start testing the production units, we really don't know what the C7 will be.