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Old 07-15-2013 | 04:30 PM
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Drive both. If you still can't answer the question, get the 'Vette.
Old 07-15-2013 | 04:43 PM
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I think if you are contemplating Vette versus Cayman, you will be disappointed in the lack of power with a Cayman. For me, I was tossing up Cayman or Elise or 996 C2/C4S. Outright power was never a concern, so I wasn't disppointed when the Cayman felt only marginally faster than my 1998 M3.
Old 07-15-2013 | 04:52 PM
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My vote goes Cayman. I would even suggest getting the non S if you can stand having less than 300hp. Then you do not have to justify the price difference.
Old 07-16-2013 | 01:44 PM
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If you buy the C7, EVERYONE you know will come over to check it out. People will stop you as you get out of your car to ask you about it. I don't hink the average person knows that the Cayman is some different kind of Porsche from the Carrera nor could they identify it by name if you pointed to it. And by the time the Cayman has depreciated to really desireable levels, most people will be over the C7. The C7 is like the hot new girl at your highschool. While the Cayman is the old hot girl with a new nose job. Much less of an event...
Old 07-16-2013 | 02:06 PM
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Here you go fellas, pay close attention to what Jerome says about the car's feel and presence and when he will sell it, to me his words sum up Porsche.

http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee....-meyers-really

PS Me thinks drivers who start cars and immediately gun the engine are nitwits or multi millionaires.
Old 07-16-2013 | 03:39 PM
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PS Me thinks drivers who start cars and immediately gun the engine are nitwits or multi millionaires.
I doubt it would be very hard on the car considering there is no load on the engine. Maybe it was warmed up already (doesn't look like it though from the exhaust). As long is oil is flowing its all good.
Old 07-16-2013 | 05:05 PM
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That's part of the point, no way that car was running long enough to circulate the oil and starting the engine is already hard on the car.Having no load on the engine IMO makes no difference it's still bad for internals and for what? Hence, Porsche's instruction to start the car and gently drive away till it's fully warm. I wouldn't rev my engine like that warm but that's just me, no need for it and it can do nothing but harm in the long term.
Old 07-16-2013 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by perfectlap
In the meantime enjoy the Stingray on the track with the knowledge that if the engine blows up GM won't leave you hanging like Porsche would.
For the record, there are multiple cases of GM denying warranty claims on Corvette engine blow-ups on track (and other cases where they were covered). It's not limited to just Porsche. Porsche cases see more limelight because the engines are considerably more expensive.

Should they cover more engine failures? Yes. Should Porsche engines cost less? IMO, yes. But the statement above is not entirely accurate.

One last thing...... (snip - deleted for now)
Old 07-17-2013 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by perfectlap
If you buy the C7, EVERYONE you know will come over to check it out. People will stop you as you get out of your car to ask you about it. I don't hink the average person knows that the Cayman is some different kind of Porsche from the Carrera nor could they identify it by name if you pointed to it.
That makes we want the Cayman....I'm not that interested in drawing attention.
Old 07-17-2013 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FullThrottle64
That makes we want the Cayman....I'm not that interested in drawing attention.
Cayman is the ultimate sleeper now.. Especially that 3.8L BGB's selling.
A 981 Boxster R will probably be quicker than a Cayman S or probably a Cayman R though. Recall the Overbeek Cayman R vs. 987 Spyder test on the karting track.

Now if you don't mind attention and still want to spend "Porsche tax " level money.

Hennessy
HPE600 Supercharged ($12,495) 600 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE700 Supercharged ($18,450) 700 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE800 Twin-Turbo ($54,950) 800 hp @ 6,300 rpm
HPE1000 Twin-Turbo ($67,950) 1,100 hp @ 6,300 rpm


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Old 07-17-2013 | 01:25 PM
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The build quality of the 981's is astonishing. If brute force is your priority, go with the vette. In all other categories the 981 will be tough to beat.
Old 07-17-2013 | 03:28 PM
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These Hennessey aftermarket C7 nmods can soomth out the GM weak points. Lord know what Porsche would tax the buyer for these things..

Power:
• 1000 bhp @ 6,300 rpm

HPE1000 Supercharged Upgrade Includes:
• HPE Custom Balanced & Forged Engine
• Twin Ball Bearing Turbochargers
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• Custom HPE Camshaft
• High Flow Cylinder Heads
• Fuel System Upgrade
• Stainless Steel Inlet Piping
• Dual Wastegates
• Electronic Boost Controller
• Air-to-Air Intercooler
• Dual Air Induction Filters
• Stainless Steel Turbo Downpipes
• Stainless Steel Exhaust System
• Professional Installation
• HPE Engine Management Calibration
• Dyno Tuning & Road Testing
• Serial-Numbered Dash & Engine Plaques
• Hennessey Exterior Badging
• Hennessey Premium Floormats
• Hennessey Carbon Fiber Door Sills
• 1 Year / 12,000 Mile Limited Warranty

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• CarbonAero® Front Spoiler
• CarbonAero® Rear Lip Spoiler
• CarbonAero® Side Sills
Old 07-17-2013 | 07:15 PM
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Think I'm pretty much settled on dumping the 06 S as soon as the excitement dies down & ordering a Z51. Porsche lost me with the way they denied the IMS issue. And, must admit after driving the Box a few times it really didn't excite me much, probably why it's only been driven 11/k since new.
Old 07-17-2013 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisc
Think I'm pretty much settled on dumping the 06 S as soon as the excitement dies down & ordering a Z51. Porsche lost me with the way they denied the IMS issue. And, must admit after driving the Box a few times it really didn't excite me much, probably why it's only been driven 11/k since new.
tell me about it,i have put 18 k on my new bought 09 cayman. my last corvette was a 07 z06..............the po is a dawg compared to a corvette in street fighting
Old 07-18-2013 | 12:00 AM
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Sounds to me like some of you guys need to go buy a Corvette instead of complaining online. GMAFB.



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