Extreme handling
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Would anyone like to comment on how the Cayman handles at the extreme?
Does it push or oversteer? Has anyone lost it on the track or the highway for that matter?
I haven't been even near the car's extreme on the road and I probably won't track it. So I am hoping to learn from your experiences and thoughts?
Does it push or oversteer? Has anyone lost it on the track or the highway for that matter?
I haven't been even near the car's extreme on the road and I probably won't track it. So I am hoping to learn from your experiences and thoughts?
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You will never be able to push the car at the extreme on the streets unless you want jail time. On the track, it is a very precise and extremely balanced vehicle. It makes a decent driver look great!
I am not a professional racer, but I only really realized how great the Cayman was at my first track event. Good luck...
I am not a professional racer, but I only really realized how great the Cayman was at my first track event. Good luck...
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It is very easy to drive, pretty high limits and hard to get to those limits especially with street tires and at the limit of the tires you have a lot of different options to control the car.
Initially it mildly understeers, slightly loading up the fronts keeps that in check and you can induce throttle over steer relatively easily as well. As mentioned before, quite neutral, so you can go from under to oversteer easily under control, never handful.
Initially it mildly understeers, slightly loading up the fronts keeps that in check and you can induce throttle over steer relatively easily as well. As mentioned before, quite neutral, so you can go from under to oversteer easily under control, never handful.
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Originally Posted by RJM
...I probably won't track it.
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All of non-GT porsches understeer like greased pigs in stock form. When they are pushed on the track, they have more body lean than that tower in Italy. For any real track use, you need to stiffen up the suspension considerably.
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Maybe autocross will be in my future...The only reason I do not want to track it; is that I do not even have a rock chip yet...I can't imagine coming home and telling my wife that I ground off the tires,need new brake pads and by the way the front end needs repainting, but I am a better driver, "Lets go for a ride" :>)
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Originally Posted by RJM
Maybe autocross will be in my future...The only reason I do not want to track it; is that I do not even have a rock chip yet...I can't imagine coming home and telling my wife that I ground off the tires,need new brake pads and by the way the front end needs repainting, but I am a better driver, "Lets go for a ride" :>)
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Originally Posted by RJM
Maybe autocross will be in my future...The only reason I do not want to track it; is that I do not even have a rock chip yet...I can't imagine coming home and telling my wife that I ground off the tires,need new brake pads and by the way the front end needs repainting, but I am a better driver, "Lets go for a ride" :>)
These cars were meant to be driven.
I would like to pull a Mooty and have one modded track-abuse-taker and one clean daily driver.
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Originally Posted by FlyingToaster
It is very easy to drive, pretty high limits and hard to get to those limits especially with street tires and at the limit of the tires you have a lot of different options to control the car.
Initially it mildly understeers, slightly loading up the fronts keeps that in check and you can induce throttle over steer relatively easily as well. As mentioned before, quite neutral, so you can go from under to oversteer easily under control, never handful.
Initially it mildly understeers, slightly loading up the fronts keeps that in check and you can induce throttle over steer relatively easily as well. As mentioned before, quite neutral, so you can go from under to oversteer easily under control, never handful.
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Originally Posted by 38D
All of non-GT porsches understeer like greased pigs in stock form.................you need to stiffen up the suspension considerably.
Seriously, stock cars can be made to handle more competitively by adjusting the camber to the outer end of the specifications.
Does anyone know what happens if you do this with the PASM set-up?
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Originally Posted by RJM
Maybe autocross will be in my future...The only reason I do not want to track it; is that I do not even have a rock chip yet...I can't imagine coming home and telling my wife that I ground off the tires,need new brake pads and by the way the front end needs repainting, but I am a better driver, "Lets go for a ride" :>)
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Concours! are you kidding me, can you imagine the grass stains I would get on the tires?
Mooty, How many miles on your car? How many track miles? How often do you change your oil and does the car "use" alot of oil. Any change in compression on the engine?
I think its great that you push your car to its limits...we will all learn alot about our cars from your adventures.
I have already driven this car harder than I have any other car I have owned in 40 years. So far, it seems to like it...I know I do.
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Mooty, How many miles on your car? How many track miles? How often do you change your oil and does the car "use" alot of oil. Any change in compression on the engine?
I think its great that you push your car to its limits...we will all learn alot about our cars from your adventures.
I have already driven this car harder than I have any other car I have owned in 40 years. So far, it seems to like it...I know I do.
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Originally Posted by Irishdriver
Colin, do you not think that the movable weights you have quite high up might be affecting the handling??? It's clear they need to be tied down more !!!
Seriously, stock cars can be made to handle more competitively by adjusting the camber to the outer end of the specifications.
Does anyone know what happens if you do this with the PASM set-up?![Confused](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Seriously, stock cars can be made to handle more competitively by adjusting the camber to the outer end of the specifications.
Does anyone know what happens if you do this with the PASM set-up?
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Originally Posted by RJM
Mooty, How many miles on your car? How many track miles? How often do you change your oil and does the car "use" alot of oil. Any change in compression on the engine?
I think its great that you push your car to its limits...we will all learn alot about our cars from your adventures.
I think its great that you push your car to its limits...we will all learn alot about our cars from your adventures.
almost 5k miles on track
every 3-4 track days, i change oil. to make things simple i just change oil every month.
on street, it uses no oil, on track, i need 1qt for 100 miles. i thnk oil gets into air/oil separator and then upon starting up, big smoke from exhaust. that's where the oil is being used up (my guess).
just had compression chk'd. can't rmember the numbers, but was even all the way across and mechanic said it's very healthy.
no real problems YET, but lots of f'k warning lights everywhere, air bag, psm, tpms, some times chk engine (bad cat was the code readout, dealer is ordering new one under warranty).
dying power steering pump due ot heat