Drove Cayman S Today
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Originally Posted by CP
Dan,
The 0-60 times are amazingly quick for a 280+ HP car. That is considering that an E39 M5 with 400 HP does 4.8 seconds 0-60.
I have always thought the 993 is in the 5+ seconds range.
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The 0-60 times are amazingly quick for a 280+ HP car. That is considering that an E39 M5 with 400 HP does 4.8 seconds 0-60.
I have always thought the 993 is in the 5+ seconds range.
CP
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It's tough to compare a heavy 4 door sedan to a 993. It's all about horsepower to weight ratio and gearing. The E39 M5 is a neat car though....
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Here's a link to a site where someone compiled the performance stats from various sources for the 964 and 993 models. Might provide a more rounded perspective on the tested performance of the older cars.
http://www.weissach.net/964-993_RoadTestSummary.html
I'm sure the newer Porsches, like the Cayman S, will only prove to be faster.
http://www.weissach.net/964-993_RoadTestSummary.html
I'm sure the newer Porsches, like the Cayman S, will only prove to be faster.
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Originally Posted by Dan 96C2 St.Louis
I think they drop the cars off a huge cliff & clock them on the way down.
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interesting comments. My friend has a CaymanS on order. He's always driven Bimmers (M3, M5).
btw,They have promo spread in Vanity Fair of all places for the CaymanS.
I think anyone worried about 0-60 times really shouldn't be looking at this car. I've never understood the fascination. Sure its great but eventually you get used to it and want more and more and more and more. Where does it end? Maybe that $1M Buggati with 1000 HP that Beckham just ordered?
What does worry me about the CaymanS is the over engineering of these new Porsches.
I'd like Lexus reliability and low maintenance but I don't want the car being as easy to drive as a Merc that now brakes and throttles for you in Cruise control.
I read that several experienced P-car drivers shifted too late (6,000 RPMs) on the Rev counter because the CaymanS doesn't have that visceral feel at 4000 RPMs. That's something I would tinker with right away.
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Can I get the CaymanS with a 986/996 interior?
btw,They have promo spread in Vanity Fair of all places for the CaymanS.
I think anyone worried about 0-60 times really shouldn't be looking at this car. I've never understood the fascination. Sure its great but eventually you get used to it and want more and more and more and more. Where does it end? Maybe that $1M Buggati with 1000 HP that Beckham just ordered?
What does worry me about the CaymanS is the over engineering of these new Porsches.
I'd like Lexus reliability and low maintenance but I don't want the car being as easy to drive as a Merc that now brakes and throttles for you in Cruise control.
I read that several experienced P-car drivers shifted too late (6,000 RPMs) on the Rev counter because the CaymanS doesn't have that visceral feel at 4000 RPMs. That's something I would tinker with right away.
p.s.
Can I get the CaymanS with a 986/996 interior?
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I read that several experienced P-car drivers shifted too late (6,000 RPMs) on the Rev counter because the CaymanS doesn't have that visceral feel at 4000 RPMs. That's something I would tinker with right away.
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i can't attest to what the car feels like at 4k rpm. i usually dont shift until i am at redline.
cayman or any porsche for that matter are SLOW cars compared to their respective mkt segment. z4 coupe is way hell faster than cayman s, z06 will eat GT3 (including cup cars) alive going straight, but over 50 laps on a track i think the only car that will not melt is porsche. i know b/c i melted many of my track cars.
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i can't attest to what the car feels like at 4k rpm. i usually dont shift until i am at redline.
cayman or any porsche for that matter are SLOW cars compared to their respective mkt segment. z4 coupe is way hell faster than cayman s, z06 will eat GT3 (including cup cars) alive going straight, but over 50 laps on a track i think the only car that will not melt is porsche. i know b/c i melted many of my track cars.
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Okay, JRoss, I drove my new Cayman home from the dealer's today using the curvy two-lane back road with plenty of elevation changes. I first had to get around a tractor, then a truck, then through the fog, but after all that ... well, I won't be trying to buy my RSA back. I went much faster through the damp curves and esses than I thought I would on my first drive, simply because the car inspires such confidence. There were two tight esses where the variable ratio steering proved its worth. Although I somehow managed to keep rpms to my own set 5000 limit, I would not have been able to keep up with myself in the RSA. I'm a very happy boy.
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Jim,
I love tossing a car around esses on mountain roads. On some of these roads I think my 96 SC'ed Miata was more fun than my RUF. (pure blesphamy to most Porsche owners I'm sure) I just do not feel as confident in my RUF. May be I need to learn how to drive the RUF better, but some cars are just natural in tight curves and brisk transitions. I hope the Caymen, being a mid-engine car, is just such an animal.
Would love to read an in-depth review after you have more seat time. Enjoy.
CP
I love tossing a car around esses on mountain roads. On some of these roads I think my 96 SC'ed Miata was more fun than my RUF. (pure blesphamy to most Porsche owners I'm sure) I just do not feel as confident in my RUF. May be I need to learn how to drive the RUF better, but some cars are just natural in tight curves and brisk transitions. I hope the Caymen, being a mid-engine car, is just such an animal.
Would love to read an in-depth review after you have more seat time. Enjoy.
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CP: I think the Cayman is just such an animal. Others' driving descriptions have suggested so, and I agree. I think the "tossing the car around esses" phrase applies to the 911's, but maybe not to the Cayman or Boxster. In my RSA I approached the esses with a plan to use the throttle more and be ready to make fine adjustments if necessary. With the Cayman, I just drove the car through with the steering wheel under constant throttle. It was obvious that I never approached the car's limits, not that I was trying to. Anyone riding with me in the Cayman would be wowed by the car rather than my driving prowess.
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Originally Posted by Jim Michaels
Okay, JRoss, I drove my new Cayman home from the dealer's today using the curvy two-lane back road with plenty of elevation changes. I first had to get around a tractor, then a truck, then through the fog, but after all that ... well, I won't be trying to buy my RSA back. I went much faster through the damp curves and esses than I thought I would on my first drive, simply because the car inspires such confidence. There were two tight esses where the variable ratio steering proved its worth. Although I somehow managed to keep rpms to my own set 5000 limit, I would not have been able to keep up with myself in the RSA. I'm a very happy boy.
It sounds like this is your first experience in a mid-engined car.
They inherently handle better and inspire confidence.
Just a thought.
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Drove a new Cayman S today, 19 inchers, no PASM. Wow. Incredibly nimble, awesome turn-in and crispness, great sound to the motor and a surprisingly quiet and comfortable ride, despite not having PASM and with the sport seats.
Compared to the 996 C4S:
Cayman more nimble, better turn in and steering feel. Feels lighter.
Could not tell appreciable difference in "speed" or quickness
Cayman is a smaller car inside and out, cabin is "small" and felt a little claustrophobic.
The cayman is the sports car now, the Carrera is the GT car. Both great, quite different. I think the Cayman S may well be my next Porsche.
Compared to the 996 C4S:
Cayman more nimble, better turn in and steering feel. Feels lighter.
Could not tell appreciable difference in "speed" or quickness
Cayman is a smaller car inside and out, cabin is "small" and felt a little claustrophobic.
The cayman is the sports car now, the Carrera is the GT car. Both great, quite different. I think the Cayman S may well be my next Porsche.