It totally changed my way of thinking today...
09-15-2005, 06:57 AM
#106
Originally Posted by schnell987
Have not driven Sebring yet, so my favorite tracks are Watkins Glen and Mid-Ohio. If you get up this way, those are the tracks to hit. Limerock is also a fun track, and a great equalizer for those of us with momentum cars.
09-18-2005, 06:24 PM
#111
Ironman 140.6
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Originally Posted by mike_99l
boxters look like a lot of fun, so are all the pcars built after 1998. but its very clear that the quality of the cars and their design is lacking. just ask your self, how long do you think you will keep your boxter or 996 for????? i can guarantee you, you wont keep it for more than 5 years, why???
1- they have made so many that in every corner you see one
2- huge depreciation in price
1- they have made so many that in every corner you see one
2- huge depreciation in price
- How is it clear that the quality is lacking? They have a good maintenance history. Consumer Reports just named the Boxster it's top roadser pick. Porsche's current JD Power ranking is quite good.
- I have already had mine for 5 years, and I can guarantee you I will be keeping it for a lot longer (probably the rest of my life).
- The quality is actually very good and the car stands up to track use very well.
- They sell < 10,000/year (986's) in the US which is hardly a number that shows up at every corner. However, it is true that they are among the most successful Porsche's ever built (The most successful is probably the 924/944/951/968)
if you ask any 993/964/911 owner how long do u plan to keep you p cars for?? 95% of them will tell you forever.
it will cost you around 60k to buy a 993 c2s now days,thats if you can find one
but you can buy a 996 for 35k, a boxter for 15k. are u kidding!!, you couldnt buy a decent 968 for 15K, may be a very clean 944 turbo that is almost 20 years old.
You can find good 968 or 951's for less than $15k (again check Panorama)
all porsches are great cars
if you have a boxter or a 996, iam pretty sure you are already admiring the new 997 and you boxter/996 is starting to look old.
i fall in love with it ,, but as soon as get back into my 964, i totally forget about it, ITS TIMELESS, gets more complimants and looks than a naked super model, cause you just dont see them around, and when you do, you stair at them like you never seen one even you are in one.
Ask any other Porsche owner........the compliments from other drivers do not begin or end with the 964.
when i can afford more of a porsche, my 4 choices will be, 1994 964T, 1998 993 C2s, 1988 930 or 964 roadstar.
Unfortunately, as with PCar your dislike for the newer models shines throughout most of your post. The facts show 986 and 996 are two of the most reliable and least maintenance intensive cars Porsche has ever built. They have their weaknesses, but so does the 964, the 993, the 930 and every other Porsche ever built (if you are willing to be honest).
anyway, i need to go to sleep
09-19-2005, 11:36 AM
#113
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I plan on keeping my 987S forever. It is by far the most fun i've ever had in a car (well a street car anyways. The formula Dodge at Laguna Seca was probably the most fun in any car that i've ever had).
In Miami, there are definitely a lot of Porsche's. Here in Colorado, I probably see about 5-10 a month and most of which are older ones. Since I got my 987S in May, i've only seen 2 others.
As far as quality goes, I couldn't be more happy with the quality of my 2005 and again I feel that it's superior in every possible way to the older generation cars.
In Miami, there are definitely a lot of Porsche's. Here in Colorado, I probably see about 5-10 a month and most of which are older ones. Since I got my 987S in May, i've only seen 2 others.
As far as quality goes, I couldn't be more happy with the quality of my 2005 and again I feel that it's superior in every possible way to the older generation cars.
05-11-2024, 11:09 PM
#115
This was a fascinating thread, reading the initial impressions and predictions for the Boxster and 911’s. If the original posters are still around it would be fun to have them revisit their posts and reflect on what they think today. One theme that I could not find in the old posts was the role of the Boxster to change the financial trajectory for Porsche. I’m curious if that was known at the time (by the faithful) or if that came out later.
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05-12-2024, 04:48 PM
#116
This was a fascinating thread, reading the initial impressions and predictions for the Boxster and 911’s. If the original posters are still around it would be fun to have them revisit their posts and reflect on what they think today. One theme that I could not find in the old posts was the role of the Boxster to change the financial trajectory for Porsche. I’m curious if that was known at the time (by the faithful) or if that came out later.
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05-15-2024, 11:34 AM
#118
05-17-2024, 05:30 PM
#119
Track Day
im a newer 2008 Cayman S owner and while i cant say ive driven a modern 911 i will say even this 16 year car is so damn fun to drive i honestly cant imagine much more fun to be had than maybe a bit more hp but even as is its a 9.5 out of 10 for me. Mid engine 300+ hp after an ecu tune and its a damn nice looking car I cant get enough of. Havent tracked it yet but ive got to imagine since ive seen enough videos that the 987 is no slouch…granted the initial post was pre987 coming out i think. For the cost and availability of the older 987s its really a steal of a car. I intend to daily mine snd autox it…maybe track but its too new yet for me to say if im going there. Love the car….might be a handmedown in my will many years down the road with 200k plus miles on it.
05-18-2024, 07:28 PM
#120
No offense taken, as I'm just sharing my experiences with the boxster S and those of a few people I know. If you have a different experience, please share it. Just make sure you're talking about track use, because durability on the street means absolutely nothing.
The reason I would never own one out of warranty, is that no parts on the new pcars are made to be fixed or replaced in part. If something in the engine goes wrong, you need a new engine. If something in the transmission goes wrong, you need a new transmission. That's the approach of Porsche AG and PCNA, and that can get pretty expensive when you start pushing it at the track, and things start breaking.
Please let us know how your experiences have differed - if you've been tracking your boxster with no problems whatsoever, that's great - I wouldn't wish the problems we had with our boxster S on anyone!
The reason I would never own one out of warranty, is that no parts on the new pcars are made to be fixed or replaced in part. If something in the engine goes wrong, you need a new engine. If something in the transmission goes wrong, you need a new transmission. That's the approach of Porsche AG and PCNA, and that can get pretty expensive when you start pushing it at the track, and things start breaking.
Please let us know how your experiences have differed - if you've been tracking your boxster with no problems whatsoever, that's great - I wouldn't wish the problems we had with our boxster S on anyone!
durability on the street means absolutely nothing? I’ll take two of what you’re smoking.