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Old 07-17-2018, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
$150k for a 228hp/1.5 liter 3 cylinder mated to a 141 electric motor with an 18 mile range? That does 0-60 in over 4 seconds? As PA said above, it's a novelty. But more of a joke in terms of serious sports car performance. And that price. That's the real joke.
140K and 357 hp with a 7 year warranty on battery in an AWD car you can drive in big winter----once a year service and no problems---R&T reliably got 0-60 time in 3.7 sec----way WAY more comfortable to drive than the porsche---it's not a novelty car in the least ---and it's a blast to drive
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$150k for 357 hp still sounds ridiculous. People give the Cayman's enough crap for being $80k at 350 hp and $100k at 385 hp, and they're much better performers at 1/2 and 2/3 the cost. 0-60 is misleading because electric cars are great off the line. In the quarter, the i8 is slower than even a last gen Cayman S and much slower than 718S PDK (12.4 @ 113 mph on C&D). It's a neat car, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely still a novelty for people who care about the eco crap more so than it is a legitimate performance car competitor to others in its price range. Hell, the thing is 991 turbo money, not Cayman.
Old 07-17-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wanesso
140K and 357 hp with a 7 year warranty on battery in an AWD car you can drive in big winter----once a year service and no problems---R&T reliably got 0-60 time in 3.7 sec----way WAY more comfortable to drive than the porsche---it's not a novelty car in the least ---and it's a blast to drive
R&T 3.7? https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ll-impressive/

Seriously, the I8 was such a miss by BMW it's laughable. Wacky styling, all the performance of a Camaro SS, and a price tag well over $100k.

As far as the OP's actual question, a 982 Cayman S would destroy an I8 on the track. They wouldn't even be in the same league. Think LMP1 car vs. GTLM car.
Old 07-17-2018, 07:54 PM
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GT4 for the win!
Old 07-18-2018, 02:13 PM
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3.8 sec, I stand corrected. Check Chris Harris' review---definitely not a joke! Haters gonna hate......meanwhile, I'll enjoy the drive smiling all the way....
Old 07-18-2018, 03:11 PM
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As an alternative I suggest the R8 V10 instead of the i8! Or an F430! And if you don't care about mid engine then the AMG GT-S!
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Originally Posted by wanesso
3.8 sec, I stand corrected. Check Chris Harris' review---definitely not a joke! Haters gonna hate......meanwhile, I'll enjoy the drive smiling all the way....
We'll just have to agree to disagree, as you're quoting stuff from four years ago when it was a novelty to guys like Harris, who, while he liked it, also had some pretty big complaints. I have a hard time thinking that $150k for a car that's 6 seconds slower around the Ring than a Golf R is anything but a joke from a sports car perspective. I own a Golf R and it's kind of a joke in sporting terms. Then again it only costs $37k...
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Well guys thanks for all the advice! I just pulled the trigger on a 2017 718 Cayman s PDK earlier this month! Gotta say I'm loving the car in terms of handling and power. Can't wait until its gets drier here in Vancouver to take it to the track!
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I wonder why you didn't consider the Tesla performance model. The car is undeniably quick and is a wonderful car to drive off track. Not for me, but many track the car. I have the AWD long range version and were I younger and sillier still I'd like;y try it out there. Can't get past the on-center feel of the Spyder no matter how exquisite the power band of the electric car.
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Originally Posted by brur
I wonder why you didn't consider the Tesla performance model. The car is undeniably quick and is a wonderful car to drive off track. Not for me, but many track the car. I have the AWD long range version and were I younger and sillier still I'd like;y try it out there. Can't get past the on-center feel of the Spyder no matter how exquisite the power band of the electric car.
Well first it’s not a sports car, but I agree it is very fast both in a straight line and on the track. However, previous posts brought up a good point — if I am going to regularily track the car it’s better to have a proven platform with a community of others behind it. Last thing I want is that Tesla breaking and waiting 6 months for parts only to find it’s not covered by warranty!
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Originally Posted by bowenxue98
Well guys thanks for all the advice! I just pulled the trigger on a 2017 718 Cayman s PDK earlier this month! Gotta say I'm loving the car in terms of handling and power. Can't wait until its gets drier here in Vancouver to take it to the track!
Congrats! You chose wisely.

Did you ever drive an i8 to compare?
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
I8 is a joke.
+1
I researched the i8 2.5 years ago when I got the itch for some serious power and handling.
Drove one for about an hour and was extremely underwhelmed.
Learned it was being called "the super car for girls".. not my words..

Back then it appeared the vast majority of i8 drivers were LEASES. Very few actually bought the i8.
Even then the Leasers were walking away from the car at the end of the term (or sooner).

Was obvious to me that eventually there would be a glut of used i8's on the market at ~$70K (<50% of MSRP)

Also the car manual states there are "no user serviceable parts" on the car, so ANY modification voids any warranty.

Originally Posted by Dr.Bill
Drove one once, would never buy one, no matter how inexpensive they get.
Dittos. Even at $70K they haven't bottomed out yet. Different class of car but you can get an i3 for ~$10K these days.

Originally Posted by bowenxue98
Since the 982 got downsized into a turbo 4, how does the engine note and exhaust compare with the I8’s turbo 3?
The i8 doesn't have an engine note... it's FAKE and is piped in through the speakers inside the cab of the car.

I opted for a 2008 GenIV SRT-10 Viper.



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