Ernest72

Something tells me the cheaper headers will have more issues than the expensive ones. I don’t have data for this. In the Subaru world I have been bit by buying a cheaper high flow cat that failed, only to have to buy the better one. For me I would rather do the work once and be done. Certainly would suck to have to pull them off again and get fixed. Ya get what you pay for. If tracking I think the risk just goes up. Perhaps look into getting headers where you can take the cat out and put a test pipe in before going to the track. Unfortunately ya have to pay to play. I wish we had more data on failures.

Randy_B

The Soul headers look weird with the coating or whatever they do to theirs. I prefer the look of the bare stainless of the Top Gear headers. Just an observation - I likely won't do headers on my car.

Ernest72

looks don’t matter as much as quality. It’s not like you see it much other than when you install. I did the soul long tube headers and yes my wallet cried. But I am now done except for maintenance or cosmetic stuff if I feel like spending money for no good reason. .

Steph718

There's another extensive thread on these headers with zero bad reviews. The speculation there is that these headers are in fact the same exact as the Soul headers sans the cute coating. It's blatantly obvious when you compare the flanges.

Being manufactured in the UK, I'm pretty sure these should be solid pieces, mine arrive on Monday.

Sorry to have revived an old thread, just had a question for a user in this thread that I was unable to private message.

Ernest72

I am not crapping on the product. What I said was in general. I have said I have no data. Only time will tell, my expensive ones could fail as well, you never know. Either way if they are the same I can tell you that you will love the sound.

m3bs

Took my GT4 to the track this week for the first time with the TG headers. Faster? I don’t know. Slow track. I was 3 seconds off my PB, but the fast guys were off by as much as 6 seconds. They did sound great though, and I had several people stop by to comment on how good the car sounded. The overall experience is positive, with a satisfying pull throughout the rpm range, without the noticeable dip it used to have.

Ernest72

Only street use for me, but I definitely feel some more pull and the sound is just great. So I guess stop looking at the clock and just enjoy the sound that makes you at least feel like you are going faster.

Steph718

Are you running these headers too??

Steph718

What was your work around for the CEL? Installing mine this weekend, debating whether to leave the mini-cats in AND running J spacers or cutting the mini-cats out and JUST the J spacers..

Ernest72

no soul longtube headers.

Steph718

CEL issues?

Ernest72

none so far. None for a friend of mine either for his 981S. Both installed about 2 months.

MaddMike

Question about spacers. I have a 718 Spyder with Kline 200 cel catted headers. I occasionally get a CEL and am thinking of adding spacers. Not sure the difference between the L and straight spacers and which would work best. Would love any insights. I currently have just been clearing the CEL when it pops up. That can be once a month or once a week--just whenever it feels like it.

Steph718

What are you using as a fix? J spacer? If so which size orifice?

Ernest72

Nothing, it has a cat, no issues so far. If I get one then a spacer will be needed.