968 turbo-ing methods
12-05-2003, 03:30 PM
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So when will you share the secrets of your setup?
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As soon as I learn 'em, myself!
Raj...did you really start yours already? If so, good luck!
I figure with this weather, I won't need, or get, mine until April!
Jason
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As soon as I learn 'em, myself!
Raj...did you really start yours already? If so, good luck!
I figure with this weather, I won't need, or get, mine until April!
Jason
12-07-2003, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Jay Wellwood
Or us wanna-be's watchin' from the sidelines!!!
Or us wanna-be's watchin' from the sidelines!!!
12-07-2003, 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jay Wellwood
Or us wanna-be's watchin' from the sidelines!!!
Or us wanna-be's watchin' from the sidelines!!!
12-10-2003, 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by 968TurboS
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As far as using the S2 as a basis, you can go either way. The 944 turbo setup will require you swapping your clutch housing and clutch setup to a 944 turbo as well. If you stick to a 944 S2 setup, you will run into problems getting your reference sensor to work as on a 16 valve head it is triggered by the cam pulley. You will not have this option with a 2.7 na head and you cannot run the 2nd trigger from your flywheel cause it does not have the magnetic sensor on it.
Its catch 22, you go 16 valves, you need custom intake, exhaust but can keep your electronics and make more hp. You go with 8 valves, you can pretty much everything from a 951 but it will require you changing to 951 electronics as well for trigger purposes.
We are just getting started with a 16 valve conversion. Will let you guys know how it works out. It will use 968 electronics with custom plumbing/intercooling. The shortblock is from my current engine so it will be interesting to see how the same shortblock reacts to a 16 valve head.
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As far as using the S2 as a basis, you can go either way. The 944 turbo setup will require you swapping your clutch housing and clutch setup to a 944 turbo as well. If you stick to a 944 S2 setup, you will run into problems getting your reference sensor to work as on a 16 valve head it is triggered by the cam pulley. You will not have this option with a 2.7 na head and you cannot run the 2nd trigger from your flywheel cause it does not have the magnetic sensor on it.
Its catch 22, you go 16 valves, you need custom intake, exhaust but can keep your electronics and make more hp. You go with 8 valves, you can pretty much everything from a 951 but it will require you changing to 951 electronics as well for trigger purposes.
We are just getting started with a 16 valve conversion. Will let you guys know how it works out. It will use 968 electronics with custom plumbing/intercooling. The shortblock is from my current engine so it will be interesting to see how the same shortblock reacts to a 16 valve head.
12-10-2003, 10:52 AM
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Tom, the 951 uses2 sensors that are connected to the bell housing, one is for speed and the other is for reference.
On an S2 and 968, there is only one sensor on the bell housing, also the teeth have a different count. The same sensor reads both the speed and reference in an S2 and a 968.
Ideally if you use a 3.0 bottom end with a 2.7 head, you want to get 951 clutch housing and flywheel as the 968 has a dual mass flywheel and an S2 flywheel will not be able to provide 2 triggers needed to run 951 dme/klr setup.
It doesnt matter what block or hea you have, as long as the harness and triggers are compatible.
So, you are correct
On an S2 and 968, there is only one sensor on the bell housing, also the teeth have a different count. The same sensor reads both the speed and reference in an S2 and a 968.
Ideally if you use a 3.0 bottom end with a 2.7 head, you want to get 951 clutch housing and flywheel as the 968 has a dual mass flywheel and an S2 flywheel will not be able to provide 2 triggers needed to run 951 dme/klr setup.
It doesnt matter what block or hea you have, as long as the harness and triggers are compatible.
So, you are correct
12-10-2003, 11:06 AM
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Thanks Raj, just wanted to make sure I understood that. 951 bell housing and clutch it is. Now, I guess I need to find a 951 clutch that can hold all the power.
12-10-2003, 12:22 PM
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Tom, should be ok with cup clutch as there are plenty of 951s making over 400hp. How do you plan on using the car? Also, don't forget 951 torque tube as well.
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12-11-2003, 08:57 PM
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The car will be mostly street driven, but I may flail around on the track from time to time. I may just put the motor in my 951, to avoid the need for all the extra 951 parts (like bell houings and torque tubes and intakes and exhausts, etc., etc.) If I put this in a 968 or S2, it seems the most efficient thing would be to find a 951 parts car, rather than buying all the parts one by one. I really like the newness of 968's, but we'll see.
12-11-2003, 11:43 PM
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I plan to drop my 951 driveline (Tranny included and so forth) into a 968 shell if the cards fall in my favor. Cheaper than a repaint and the end result is more to my liking Can't think of what I would need that I don't already have...
Can't think of what I would need that I don't already have...
12-13-2003, 04:53 AM
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Raj has also giving me lots of direction in this subject. I am currently taking my 968 cab and doing the 8 valve ( using 951 turbo parts) project. Sorry Raj I didn't get back to your email yet, work has been really busy and havnt really been on the computer. It should be completed by the end of jan. If you are wondering about the 964 name it's my dad's. He has a 964 and I have the 968. Tate