968 VarioCam
06-03-2011 | 01:05 PM
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968 VarioCam
VarioCam -- Porsche’s answer to the power-boosting variable-valve-timing systems on newer models from BMW and several Japanese makes.
Car and Driver’s Pat Bedard thought VarioCam “at best inelegant -- it amounts to a plastic rubbing block, controlled by the engine computer, that adjusts the length of the drive chain between the intake and exhaust cams.”
Car and Driver’s Pat Bedard thought VarioCam “at best inelegant -- it amounts to a plastic rubbing block, controlled by the engine computer, that adjusts the length of the drive chain between the intake and exhaust cams.”
Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?
Does this work well when turbo'ed?
Also, no good looking wide body panels for the 968 makes me leans torwards the 951...
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06-03-2011 | 07:44 PM
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From: one thousand, five hundred miles north of Ft. Lauderdale for the summer.
I'm looking at new purchase of either a 951 or 968, and didn't like the sound of a "plastic rubbing block" on the 968.
the 3.0 can be included in any discussion of the most dependable engines ever produced by Porsche.
Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?
you're planning to run 'variocam' with a turbo?
Does this work well when turbo'ed?
you're planning to run 'variocam' with a turbo?
Also, no good looking wide body panels for the 968 makes me leans torwards the 951...
get 20 feet in front of a 968 and crouch. then 40 feet behind.... and crouch.
the 3.0 can be included in any discussion of the most dependable engines ever produced by Porsche.
Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?
you're planning to run 'variocam' with a turbo?
Does this work well when turbo'ed?
you're planning to run 'variocam' with a turbo?
Also, no good looking wide body panels for the 968 makes me leans torwards the 951...
get 20 feet in front of a 968 and crouch. then 40 feet behind.... and crouch.
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06-03-2011 | 09:11 PM
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I'm looking at new purchase of either a 951 or 968, and didn't like the sound of a "plastic rubbing block" on the 968.___Hum!! I think you should do a little more research on how the 968 Vario Cam does operate
Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?___ How do you plan on getting 500+ HP out of it??
Also, no good looking wide body panels for the 968 makes me leans torwards the 951...
Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?___ How do you plan on getting 500+ HP out of it??
Also, no good looking wide body panels for the 968 makes me leans torwards the 951...
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06-04-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Whish I could take it out ,but it's not possible,I fab the bracket off 2 small alluminum flat bars & fasten the licence plate to them with double adhesive tape so that it will be flush with the front cover.I know front the license plates are ugly but we got no choice here, either it's on the car or the car stay of the road.
06-04-2011 | 06:57 PM
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Is this a weak point when going to 500+ hp?
Does this work well when turbo'ed?
Maybe, Maybe not... If variocam is a horrible design by porsche as basically described by car and driver, which can't handle serious power, then the answer is no...
I would have thought somebody knowledgable would've been able to answer my question, instead of answering a question with relatively the same question...
I "crouched" to look at the front and back of a 968 and 951. I saw a lack of rim and tire width for significant hp. The stock 968 has 240 hp with a 225/60 rear tire... (8.85")
A new honda accord sixer has more
Why don't you take a gander at what the new 911 turbo s is running... 530 hp with 305 rear tires (12")... and that's with All Wheel Drive...
So like I originally stated, 968s don't have good looking wide body kits that I've found... If I'm running over 500 hp, yes I'll need a wide body kit to fit wide wheels and tires...
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06-04-2011 | 07:04 PM
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very good design, or they're designed well...
If there is a sports car as wide as an H1 Hummer with 550 hp, but it has 225 mm tires (as comes on the stock designed 698), then it doesn't do much for traction... as basic as it gets...
Again, if you missed my post above, a 911 Turbo s is running 530 hp with a 305 mm rear tire (12") and that's with All Wheel Drive... I would need something in this range with this much or more hp.
Why are you saying a 951 or 968 wouldn't be reliable if the guts are built up and the engine cooled correctly? Is a 911 Turbo S not reliable? I know my 1000 hp viper is reliable... And that's a problem if Dodge is more reliable than Porsche... actually funny...
To recap:
1)I'm assuming Variocam is a horrible design like Car and Driver stated, and wouldn't be able to handle 500+hp
2)There aren't any good looking Wide Body kits for 968 ... A.I.R. and the other one I found look horrible...
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06-04-2011 | 07:29 PM
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Texas_951,
With your Rennlist name, I think you need to go with the 944 Turbo. Plus you have started off being kind of rude to the 968 guys. They are just trying to help you.
If you are planning on 550ish Hp then you need to check with the 3.0L 951 turbo guys. They have spent some big $$$ on their cars on their adventure to get that kind of power. Use their knowledge to make it much cheaper and easier on yourself. George will have a lot of info and advice for you but be prepared to spend more money than the car will ever be worth.
As far as the rear tires on a 951, I am running 285's on 10" rims and do not have any problem. There are a few guys who have managed to stuff even wider wheels under the stock fenders but it takes some extra work and adjustments or custom rims.
Good Luck with your project if you decide to start it.
With your Rennlist name, I think you need to go with the 944 Turbo. Plus you have started off being kind of rude to the 968 guys. They are just trying to help you.
If you are planning on 550ish Hp then you need to check with the 3.0L 951 turbo guys. They have spent some big $$$ on their cars on their adventure to get that kind of power. Use their knowledge to make it much cheaper and easier on yourself. George will have a lot of info and advice for you but be prepared to spend more money than the car will ever be worth.
As far as the rear tires on a 951, I am running 285's on 10" rims and do not have any problem. There are a few guys who have managed to stuff even wider wheels under the stock fenders but it takes some extra work and adjustments or custom rims.
Good Luck with your project if you decide to start it.
06-04-2011 | 09:04 PM
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[QUOTE=Texas_951;8611997]if their design is anything like your grammer... :nono
Si t'es pas content de ma gramaire repond moi on Francais sil vous plait____My native language is French and I'm doing the best I can to write English without grammar faults but nobody perfect .Please will you answer to my reply in French like to see how your doing with your grammar in my language. And I agee 100% with Richgreester get a 951 either boost it to 500hp or slam a V8 in it, the 968 is simply not the car you want since you seem to find so much faults in it.
Si t'es pas content de ma gramaire repond moi on Francais sil vous plait____My native language is French and I'm doing the best I can to write English without grammar faults but nobody perfect .Please will you answer to my reply in French like to see how your doing with your grammar in my language. And I agee 100% with Richgreester get a 951 either boost it to 500hp or slam a V8 in it, the 968 is simply not the car you want since you seem to find so much faults in it.
06-04-2011 | 09:16 PM
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06-04-2011 | 09:19 PM
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Your response shoud read "grammaire respond moi en Francais" not "gramaire respond moi on Francais". I hate to see that you can't get your native language correct.
Je parle très bien français. Je parle aussi espagnol. Je me renseignais sur les 968. D'autres avaient des choses négatives à dire. Je demandais des avis sur les mises à jour, pas de commentaires négatifs.
I speak French very well. I also speak Spanish. I was inquiring about the 968. Others had negative things to say. I was asking for opinions on upgrades, not negative comments.
Since not that many Americans speak french, but many French speak English, I'm doing pretty well. I've only found French speaking people in France, Quebec, and New Orleans. People speak English all over the world. You shouldn't try anymore and just
if their design is anything like your grammer... :nono
Si t'es pas content de ma gramaire repond moi on Francais sil vous plait____My native language is French and I'm doing the best I can to write English without grammar faults but nobody perfect .Please will you answer to my reply in French like to see how your doing with your grammar in my language. And I agee 100% with Richgreester get a 951 either boost it to 500hp or slam a V8 in it, the 968 is simply not the car you want since you seem to find so much faults in it.
Si t'es pas content de ma gramaire repond moi on Francais sil vous plait____My native language is French and I'm doing the best I can to write English without grammar faults but nobody perfect .Please will you answer to my reply in French like to see how your doing with your grammar in my language. And I agee 100% with Richgreester get a 951 either boost it to 500hp or slam a V8 in it, the 968 is simply not the car you want since you seem to find so much faults in it.
Je parle très bien français. Je parle aussi espagnol. Je me renseignais sur les 968. D'autres avaient des choses négatives à dire. Je demandais des avis sur les mises à jour, pas de commentaires négatifs.
I speak French very well. I also speak Spanish. I was inquiring about the 968. Others had negative things to say. I was asking for opinions on upgrades, not negative comments.
Since not that many Americans speak french, but many French speak English, I'm doing pretty well. I've only found French speaking people in France, Quebec, and New Orleans. People speak English all over the world. You shouldn't try anymore and just
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06-04-2011 | 09:36 PM
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[QUOTE=Texas_951;8612214]
Je parle très bien français. Je parle aussi espagnol. Je me renseignais sur les 968. D'autres avaient des choses négatives à dire. Je demandais des avis sur les mises à jour, pas de commentaires négatifs.
I speak French very well. I also speak spanish. I was inquiring about the 968. Others had negative things to say. I was asking for opinions on upgrades, not negative comments.
Since not that many Americans speak french, but many French speak English, I'm doing pretty well. I've only found French speaking people in France, Quebec, and New Orleans. People speak English all over the world. You shouldn't try anymore and just
My reply to you was is no way negative,all I was asking is how do you plan to get 500HP out of a 3.0 ltr 16 v 968 ,oh you probably could but at which cost ,usually the best way of getting HP out of the 16 v is not with a turbo but a Super Charger.Still you will come short of your 500 hp aim.So beleive me you will be better of to start with a 951 in a long run it will be lot cheaper. A la prochaine mon ami.
Je parle très bien français. Je parle aussi espagnol. Je me renseignais sur les 968. D'autres avaient des choses négatives à dire. Je demandais des avis sur les mises à jour, pas de commentaires négatifs.
I speak French very well. I also speak spanish. I was inquiring about the 968. Others had negative things to say. I was asking for opinions on upgrades, not negative comments.
Since not that many Americans speak french, but many French speak English, I'm doing pretty well. I've only found French speaking people in France, Quebec, and New Orleans. People speak English all over the world. You shouldn't try anymore and just
06-04-2011 | 09:42 PM
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The second picture of the wide body 968 have fenders that don't look that great, all chopped up. The first pic looks really good. Who makes that? I would guess it's custom, because I haven't been able to find that anywhere. Merci pour la photo.
Here's what I think a wide body kit should look like:
Keep in mind that I don't like the color, front bumer, wing, or wheels...
Here's what I think a wide body kit should look like:
Keep in mind that I don't like the color, front bumer, wing, or wheels...
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06-04-2011 | 09:44 PM
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[QUOTE=Texas_951;8612214][QUOTE=ernie9468;8612183]
Your response shoud read "grammaire respond moi en Francais" not "gramaire respond moi on Francais". I hate to see that you can't get your native language correct.
Hold on Buddy____ I'm a simple working men not a school or language teacher,if you got nothing more positive to say about my writing skill I'll do something I never did on any forum up until now since I'm not this type of person but telling you rigth now GO F*%/"K yourself.
Your response shoud read "grammaire respond moi en Francais" not "gramaire respond moi on Francais". I hate to see that you can't get your native language correct.
Hold on Buddy____ I'm a simple working men not a school or language teacher,if you got nothing more positive to say about my writing skill I'll do something I never did on any forum up until now since I'm not this type of person but telling you rigth now GO F*%/"K yourself.