968 Turbo RS version 2 factory adjustable rear wing product development
03-08-2009, 11:36 PM
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03-09-2009, 10:58 AM
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Hi Beni,
The wing looks smashing!
Quick (dumb?) question. With a single long adjustment slot instead of a series of say 4 or 5 holes from neutral position up to maximum "angle of attack", will the wing be subject to move (pushed) downward as a result of wind pressure and frequency (vibration) - perhaps even unevenly - unless sufficiently tightened, which will invariably lead to "over tightening" and eventual cracking of the CF brackets?
Good luck with your sales. Perhaps some of the members here will put together a "group buy" in the Spring.
The wing looks smashing!
Quick (dumb?) question. With a single long adjustment slot instead of a series of say 4 or 5 holes from neutral position up to maximum "angle of attack", will the wing be subject to move (pushed) downward as a result of wind pressure and frequency (vibration) - perhaps even unevenly - unless sufficiently tightened, which will invariably lead to "over tightening" and eventual cracking of the CF brackets?
Good luck with your sales. Perhaps some of the members here will put together a "group buy" in the Spring.
03-09-2009, 11:29 AM
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Hi Richard
Thanks for pointing this out and it is a question which we have already discussed and will be answered during testing however the "load bearing" chain set titanium bolts we are using which are not shown will insure that the CF doesn't become crushed. The CF adjuster brackets are pre-preg so not the cheap "wet layup" items which has no real benefit over FRP other than the additional strength in the weave. Weight wise wet layup CF manufacturing is only very marginally lighter than FRP as the weight is in the resin.
We can produce CF in-house (but not pre-preg currently) so yes this is a viable option if required but it would be on an order only basis as CF is expensive at the moment as there is a big shortage due to how much Airbus are using/ordering in Europe 
Roll width sizes are now also down from 120cm to only 100cm which is another PITA for companies making CF hoods etc
Thanks for pointing this out and it is a question which we have already discussed and will be answered during testing however the "load bearing" chain set titanium bolts we are using which are not shown will insure that the CF doesn't become crushed. The CF adjuster brackets are pre-preg so not the cheap "wet layup" items which has no real benefit over FRP other than the additional strength in the weave. Weight wise wet layup CF manufacturing is only very marginally lighter than FRP as the weight is in the resin.
Any news on this?
Roll width sizes are now also down from 120cm to only 100cm which is another PITA for companies making CF hoods etc
03-09-2009, 12:03 PM
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Outstanding!
Now, when can we get that vented hatch?!!!
Now, when can we get that vented hatch?!!!
03-09-2009, 02:20 PM
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Hi Richard
We can produce CF in-house (but not pre-preg currently) so yes this is a viable option if required but it would be on an order only basis as CF is expensive at the moment as there is a big shortage due to how much Airbus are using/ordering in Europe Roll width sizes are now also down from 120cm to only 100cm which is another PITA for companies making CF hoods etc
We can produce CF in-house (but not pre-preg currently) so yes this is a viable option if required but it would be on an order only basis as CF is expensive at the moment as there is a big shortage due to how much Airbus are using/ordering in Europe
Roll width sizes are now also down from 120cm to only 100cm which is another PITA for companies making CF hoods etc I'm waiting on pictures of the finished product in fiberglass before i make a decision. If i like what i see. I will without a doubt order a CF Unit.
03-09-2009, 02:29 PM
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Thanks - ETA will be no longer than 4-5 weeks as the next stage is for me to make the moulds when Beni ships the plug over to me which will take a week at tops the rest of the hardware is being made for us at the moment by a third party in Switzerland. CF is not a problem either but will increase the price by a small margin but I have the stuff in stock - You will need to clear coat it though.
I to can't wait to see it fitted on our 968 development car
I to can't wait to see it fitted on our 968 development car
12-03-2011, 05:40 AM
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how much does it cost? Thanks Mike
how much does it cost?
Hi guy's
I'm just putting the feelers out on this one
We currently have two 968 TRS replica rear wings which we are not happy with regarding both fit and poor based OEM design authenticity.
As we have all seen there are about 8 companies worldwide which I am aware of that re-manufacture replica TRS wings but none of them are perfectly correct mainly based upon the adjustable bracket design.
I'm sure everybody is aware of the Number 2 yellow factory 968 TRS. This car had a factory re-designed central wing section which was wider and featured a more pronounced upwards curved rear edge to produce additional downforce over the first versions central section – See the picture below which I have lifted from the great http://968turbo.homestead.com/ website:
This is exactly what we want to re-create using proper black anodized CNC machined aluminum adjuster plates.
We want to provide our version as a three piece unit to perfectly fit with the OEM 968 side and under bridge spoiler unit – Hence this will reduce costs as we will not remake those parts out of FRP unless 944 owners would like these at a later date.
Additionally we want to go one step further an extend backwards the lower central section to match that of the adjustable top wing from the version 2 design.
There are 3 reasons we want to do this:
No1: To produce additional downforce even though this will be minimal
No2: Aesthetical improvements
No3: As you may be aware from the 951 board we are manufacturing a vented race/track rear hatch screen currently still under testing – We are worried about exhaust fumes being vacuumed back into the vents holes (see development pictures below of exactly how our new rear Lexan vented hatch screen will look – Moulds for vacuum forming are nearly finished). Buy extending the lower panel under the bridge spoiler I can play with the airflow if a problem arises:
Best regards,
Mark
P.S. Lastly a picture of a damaged 968 TRS racing in Sweden back in the day:
They still look great even damaged
I'm just putting the feelers out on this one
We currently have two 968 TRS replica rear wings which we are not happy with regarding both fit and poor based OEM design authenticity.
As we have all seen there are about 8 companies worldwide which I am aware of that re-manufacture replica TRS wings but none of them are perfectly correct mainly based upon the adjustable bracket design.
I'm sure everybody is aware of the Number 2 yellow factory 968 TRS. This car had a factory re-designed central wing section which was wider and featured a more pronounced upwards curved rear edge to produce additional downforce over the first versions central section – See the picture below which I have lifted from the great http://968turbo.homestead.com/ website:
This is exactly what we want to re-create using proper black anodized CNC machined aluminum adjuster plates.
We want to provide our version as a three piece unit to perfectly fit with the OEM 968 side and under bridge spoiler unit – Hence this will reduce costs as we will not remake those parts out of FRP unless 944 owners would like these at a later date.
Additionally we want to go one step further an extend backwards the lower central section to match that of the adjustable top wing from the version 2 design.
There are 3 reasons we want to do this:
No1: To produce additional downforce even though this will be minimal
No2: Aesthetical improvements
No3: As you may be aware from the 951 board we are manufacturing a vented race/track rear hatch screen currently still under testing – We are worried about exhaust fumes being vacuumed back into the vents holes (see development pictures below of exactly how our new rear Lexan vented hatch screen will look – Moulds for vacuum forming are nearly finished). Buy extending the lower panel under the bridge spoiler I can play with the airflow if a problem arises:
Best regards,
Mark
P.S. Lastly a picture of a damaged 968 TRS racing in Sweden back in the day:
They still look great even damaged
12-03-2011, 08:09 AM
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Blah, bkah blah! What's it going to cost?
We've heard it all!
If anyone will EVENTUALLY do it, for a price that makes any sense, it will be deutch 9, and I constantly push those guys. By and large they come through,
Who the hell are you, and if you want to sell your gear on this board, why didn't you man up, and do the honorable thing, by becoming a member, and abiding by the rules?
Riddle me that, and then we'll talk about your ideas.
I'm just sayin! This thread belongs to D9 and WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE!
Man up and start a competing thread if you think you can do better than they!
ps....but then there's those pesky RULES!
We've heard it all!
If anyone will EVENTUALLY do it, for a price that makes any sense, it will be deutch 9, and I constantly push those guys. By and large they come through,
Who the hell are you, and if you want to sell your gear on this board, why didn't you man up, and do the honorable thing, by becoming a member, and abiding by the rules?
Riddle me that, and then we'll talk about your ideas.
I'm just sayin! This thread belongs to D9 and WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE!
Man up and start a competing thread if you think you can do better than they!
ps....but then there's those pesky RULES!
12-03-2011, 03:26 PM
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Blah, bkah blah! What's it going to cost?
We've heard it all!
If anyone will EVENTUALLY do it, for a price that makes any sense, it will be deutch 9, and I constantly push those guys. By and large they come through,
Who the hell are you, and if you want to sell your gear on this board, why didn't you man up, and do the honorable thing, by becoming a member, and abiding by the rules?
Riddle me that, and then we'll talk about your ideas.
I'm just sayin! This thread belongs to D9 and WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE!
Man up and start a competing thread if you think you can do better than they!
ps....but then there's those pesky RULES!
We've heard it all!
If anyone will EVENTUALLY do it, for a price that makes any sense, it will be deutch 9, and I constantly push those guys. By and large they come through,
Who the hell are you, and if you want to sell your gear on this board, why didn't you man up, and do the honorable thing, by becoming a member, and abiding by the rules?
Riddle me that, and then we'll talk about your ideas.
I'm just sayin! This thread belongs to D9 and WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE!
Man up and start a competing thread if you think you can do better than they!
ps....but then there's those pesky RULES!