968 and 928: Back to Back
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968 and 928: Back to Back
I drove my 928s and 968 back to back yesterday (100 miles of fun). I like them both. The 928 feels really heavy, especially in the corners but very fast in the straights...especially from 90mph on. I guess beefier shocks, etc. would help this (but the 928 certainly has grunt power).
On the other side, the 968 feels very light and nimble and sure of itself. Better suspension on the 968 should make it a formidable track car. That's strange because, on paper, there's not all that much difference in weight. With proper revs and good shifting, the 968 should be able to keep ahead of the 928 on the track, I'm pretty sure.
Or am I missing something?
Harvey
On the other side, the 968 feels very light and nimble and sure of itself. Better suspension on the 968 should make it a formidable track car. That's strange because, on paper, there's not all that much difference in weight. With proper revs and good shifting, the 968 should be able to keep ahead of the 928 on the track, I'm pretty sure.
Or am I missing something?
Harvey
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I always look at it from a PTW ratio.
The 928S4 has a PTW of 4.93
My 968 with a chip and filter 5.37
Which means that in the straights I'll get killed.
On the track it's hard to say because it vary's depending on drivers skill, track knowledge, tires, how much weight was removed, the contition and setup of the engine.
I would like to think it would be a good race but I think ultimatly the 928 is a better track car. (Unless you turbo ofcorse)
Other PTW
5.75 Stock 968
5.4 Inf G35 06'
4.95 350z 06'
4.93 928S4
4.6 BoxterS 07'
4.6 928GTS
4.0 997 911S
3.6 C6 vette
3.3 997 Turbo
For all you 928 owners the GTS weighs just 30lbs more than the G35. The Inf is a Pig.
The 928S4 has a PTW of 4.93
My 968 with a chip and filter 5.37
Which means that in the straights I'll get killed.
On the track it's hard to say because it vary's depending on drivers skill, track knowledge, tires, how much weight was removed, the contition and setup of the engine.
I would like to think it would be a good race but I think ultimatly the 928 is a better track car. (Unless you turbo ofcorse)
Other PTW
5.75 Stock 968
5.4 Inf G35 06'
4.95 350z 06'
4.93 928S4
4.6 BoxterS 07'
4.6 928GTS
4.0 997 911S
3.6 C6 vette
3.3 997 Turbo
For all you 928 owners the GTS weighs just 30lbs more than the G35. The Inf is a Pig.
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Just wondering how you figured the PTW figures you posted. If I take 3000 lbs/250 hp the number is 12 and if I go the other way (250/3000) the number is obviously less than one. Doesn't power to weight ratio give the number of pounds each horsepower has to move? Or are your numbers in kg's? I was just curious how my 968, RX7 or even 914 (w/400 hp and 2000 lbs) would compare.
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Originally Posted by H2
I guess beefier shocks, etc. would help this.
I would guess 928 tend to wear out their suspension quicker than 968 because of their relatively higher weight, even when not driven much. You don't often replace springs and torsion bars on a 968 but you do replace springs on a 928.
Most of us who bought our cars with the tired and basic (non M474 or non M030) original suspension and upgraded with "sport" equipment know all too well these two great chassis need stiff set ups to be decently exploited and enjoyed to the full. Even though your S4 is kind of a low-miler by today's 928 standards I am pretty sure new shock and springs would much improve the handling.
