Cloud9...68

I've recently swapped out my 17" x 9" Twists for a set of custom 17 x 10.5's for my track-focused 968. So, I no longer need my Twists, and was wondering if it was worth the trouble and expense of removing the tires, sanding the wheels down (they have some road rash - I bought them used), re-painting, and selling them. They're great for a track car, as they represent the widest set of 17" wheels available in standard Prosche sizing, and the square set-up allows rotation of the tires to mazimize their life, although they probably won't fit up front with stock-diameter springs - I have 2.25" i.d. coilovers. Any ideas what a set like this in refinished condition would be worth? Thanks.

chudson

Hey Cloud - I hope all is well with you.

No one is commenting and I would not think myself a twist expert, so my best advice is to see if any comps can be found in the 911 forums. What is the ET and are they hollow or solid spoke? PM also sent

Cliff

Cloud9...68

Yes, I saw your PM, and have responded.

Sorry, I forgot to mention they're ET55, and I don't believe they're hollow spoke, but to be honest, I don't know how to tell. Thanks for the suggestion to check on the 911 forums, although I thought there would be 944 owners who might be interested in a 17 x 9 square set-up in one single package, vs. having to assemble it through separate purchases the way I did.

Paul Waterloo

They are not worth very much. Sounds like they are the 9969 Hollow spoke wheels. I would imagine for a square setup you're looking at a value of $250 tops as they said. Best of luck

chudson

Cloud - take the part number from the rear and look here. I see now that only the 18s were available hollow

http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php

Cloud9...68

I assume you're thinking $250 apiece. It's going to cost about $60 to remove the tires (using Costco's $15/wheel install charge), at leat $100 in paint, probably more, plus a lot of time removing the weights and their adhesive residue, and sanding and prepping the wheels. So maybe $200 to get them ready for sale. It might be worth it, but it's definitely borderline.

TheBlau

They're a dime a dozen. 17" twists came stock on Boxsters, and they really don't hold much value in the market. Everyone outside of the transaxle community wants 18s. I would think in their current curbed/etc condition, that $250 for the set would be accurate for someone to use as a track set or as a winter set.
Repaired maybe you would get $400-450 for the whole set.
You can buy them individually fully refinished for ~$100-130 each on ebay.

Cloud9...68

I should have done some research before posting this thread, because I don't know where you guys are finding 17" Twists for $250 for a set. I'm seeing asking prices in the $150 - $200 range per wheel, in various conditions, including some that are bent. Of course, these are asking prices - no idea what people are actually getting, because I understand these are very common wheels. Anybody have any first-hand info as to where you're seeing these super-low prices? I'm not out to make a killing, just trying to decide if there's enough return to spend the time and money on tire removal and paint to refinish my set, as a couple of them are pretty badly scratched up (but in perfect structural condition). Thanks.

Paul Waterloo

I bought my twists (as shown in my 951 sig picture), which were a staggered set up from a 996, for $400 including tires, I sold them for something like $300 or $250. They are a dime a dozen, and a lot of people have wheels for sale, but few actually sell them.



I also recently sold my 996 10 spoke wheels with track tires for $350, they were in almost perfect shape, looked like these:



And to put it in perspective, I paid $800 for 993 Cup II wheels that were powder coated in pristine condition for my 951.



I don't know who would be looking for a square set up except very few, and they probably wouldn't be willing to pay much. Wheels are just not worth that much, and they are expensive to ship, so people don't want to pay much. Best of luck.

Cloud9...68

Thanks, Paul, that's the kind of info I was looking for, as it's hard to judge the value of something by what people are asking for them. As I said, I'm not looking to make a bunch of money on these wheels; I just want to establish a reasonable price, which will drive whether I want to sand and repaint them or not. I am surprised you got so little for your 10-spoke 996 wheels, as I thought those are significantly more desirable than Twists.

And as far as staggered vs. square set-up, I've always thought a staggered set-up on a modestly powered car with 50/50 weight distribution is downright goofy, but that's the way Porsche designed these cars, so it's hard to get away from, unless you go with smaller diameter front springs to enable a wider wheel to fit up front.

TheBlau

uscarrera

Just a price point I have two 17x9 inch 993 Cup 2s was selling for $250 for both plus shipping no buyer yet
Rich

gtolou

Trying to find a set of 17's - powdercoated dk gray or black for a 968 - if anyone is trying to sell. Or a super cheap set of twists or cup's for a 968 that I could powder coat.

Cloud9...68

Thanks for the summary; it seems to be accurate. But it highlights another item, along with the 968 coming with a staggered set-up, that has always struck me as the epitome of counterproductive silliness - the obsession with large diameter wheels. Other than aesthetically, they are a losing proposition from every angle - they add weight, tires are significantly more expensive, lower profile tires are required, which puts the wheels at greater risk of road rash, etc. For a mega-horsepower, bloated supercar capable of 200+ mph that needs rotors the size of dinner plates squeezed by 12-piston calipers, yes, you need large enough wheels to clear all this kinetic energy-converting hardware. But this is needed in exactly zero instances on real-world American roads. Hopefully ever-tightening gas mileage standards will eventually put the "brakes" (my deepest apologies, but how could I resist?) on this goofiness.